Donate to Remove ads

Got a credit card? use our Credit Card & Finance Calculators

Thanks to johnstevens77,Bhoddhisatva,scotia,Anonymous,Cornytiv34, for Donating to support the site

The Hand of God

Religion and Philosophy
Forum rules
we are introducing this on a trial basis and that respect for other's views is important e.g. phrases like "your imaginary friend" or "you will go to hell" are not appropriate
taken2often
Lemon Slice
Posts: 382
Joined: November 9th, 2016, 12:10 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 79 times

The Hand of God

#364965

Postby taken2often » December 11th, 2020, 3:41 am

First I have to state. I am not a believer, but I have had an interesting thought.

I America there is a man who speaks to God, and God told him many months before the 16 election that he was sending a sinner to fix America and it would be Donald Trump, and it came to pass. During the past four years DT has been attacked in many ways but prevailed. The mainstream media have ensured that half the population has no idea of what he has achieved, and there are many good things. During these years a new mental condition has appeared TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). This allows the sufferer to say and do the most despicable things, no moral control, as long as it relates to Trump and his supporters. If you say bad you get published if you say good you get punished. So you may ask what is this to do with today.

Well if Gods hand is at work the current voting situation would make sense, in that if DT had a massive win his ego would be even greater, if that is possible. If he retains the Presidency which is still possible. The effects of TDS on the voting system and activist democrats who thinks any thing goes as long as DT is out. The evidence of corruption seems to be piling up.

Now think of the effect on any decent Democratic Voter who finds that their victory has been snatched away from them. They may want to know more about what has been concealed from them and force the Party to deal fairly with him during the second term.

As it is. It appears that according to the evidence concealed from them that the Biden family including Joe may be the most corrupt in USA history. He is also mentally failing and the plan is to have his socialist VP take over. Who appears to be another nasty piece of work. It is just unbelievable. I do hope the Hand of God is tipping the scales.

GoSeigen
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 4349
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:14 pm
Has thanked: 1590 times
Been thanked: 1579 times

Re: The Hand of God

#364972

Postby GoSeigen » December 11th, 2020, 6:46 am

taken2often wrote: The evidence of corruption seems to be piling up.


Pray tell.

GS

servodude
Lemon Half
Posts: 8271
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 5:56 am
Has thanked: 4434 times
Been thanked: 3564 times

Re: The Hand of God

#364977

Postby servodude » December 11th, 2020, 6:59 am

GoSeigen wrote:
taken2often wrote: The evidence of corruption seems to be piling up.


Pray tell.

GS


I'm intrigued also
Especially about the God working through DJT angle; since he's famously spent more time in Stormy Daniels than in a church.
Mysterious ways?

-sd

AsleepInYorkshire
Lemon Half
Posts: 7383
Joined: February 7th, 2017, 9:36 pm
Has thanked: 10514 times
Been thanked: 4659 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365025

Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 11th, 2020, 9:52 am

John 16:3

AiY

bungeejumper
Lemon Half
Posts: 8063
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 2:30 pm
Has thanked: 2845 times
Been thanked: 3938 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365053

Postby bungeejumper » December 11th, 2020, 10:59 am

I notice that the OP's post was written at 3.41 am. If I'd just woken up with an insight like that in my head, I'd go easy on the cheese.

But hey, if we're being biblical...... 666 Fifth Avenue. Ring any bells?

Yeah, you got it. 666 is the number of Mexican children seized at the border who haven't been reunited with their parents because Trump's goons have permanently lost their details. Why, even Pope Francis has tweeted his approval of the messiah and all his works. Apparently.

BJ

taken2often
Lemon Slice
Posts: 382
Joined: November 9th, 2016, 12:10 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 79 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365091

Postby taken2often » December 11th, 2020, 12:06 pm

Thank you for proving my point. It is understandable that your knowledge is likely to be limited to what you think you know. I have been following these events for four years. The benefit of retirement. Unless something dramatic happens the US is heading for another revolution unknowingly orchestrated by the Democrat Party and a complicit mass media. The British media is also complicit in that they only report on the US media which is always negative. Surveys find it about 94%. Now that cannot be right. The Sunday Times and the Sunday Mail have both ignore two major stories over the past months. The corroborated evidence in a laptop relating to Hunter Biden Joe's Son. The DOJ have just confirmed he is being investigated and has been for some time. Money from the Ukraine, Moscow, China and god knows where else.

Last week end not a word on the election fraud. To the media it does not exist, but it is very real and the proof is rolling out. One of the main complains is illegal changing of the voting laws to make it easier to cheat. Texas AG is taking the disputed states to the Supreme Court over this.
The Dominion voting machines can be set to various standards as to whether to accept a vote or not. If turned the wrong way thousands of non legal votes get through. Joe Biden got 10 million more votes than Obama. I watched a sales video that confirmed this. Also the machines are not supposed to be connected to the interned by law. Their user manual confirms that they are, and witnesses to confirm that offsite adjustments could be made.

Finally look at what YouTube have just put out, heavy duty censorship on this subject

Can you name one good thing that he has done in four years. That's the question that most people in this country cannot answer.

bungeejumper
Lemon Half
Posts: 8063
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 2:30 pm
Has thanked: 2845 times
Been thanked: 3938 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365189

Postby bungeejumper » December 11th, 2020, 4:17 pm

So the fact that there isn't a single ounce of evidence for Trump's claims about voting fraud - and that he has failed to present any during any of his thirty-odd lawsuits - doesn't suggest to you that this might be a complete load of @rse-covering for the fact that he failed?

You've referred to seeing a sales video that proves that Dominion machines can be illegally manipulated? Be a good chap and tell us where we can see it as well? Otherwise, expect your fantasy to be dismissed. Of course, you'll need to explain why the wicked and corrupt Dominion made as many donations to the Republicans as it did to the Democrats, but hey, I expect QAnon will give you a get-around for that awkward question as well.

First, though, you perhaps ought to explain what your (ahem :roll: ) theory has to do with the Meaning of Life, and why you don't think it should be taking place over there in the specially designated fighting cage at Polite Discussions?

BJ

GoSeigen
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 4349
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:14 pm
Has thanked: 1590 times
Been thanked: 1579 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365209

Postby GoSeigen » December 11th, 2020, 5:06 pm

taken2often wrote:One of the main complains is illegal changing of the voting laws to make it easier to cheat.


Okay... sounds awful. What are the details of this complaint?

GS

taken2often
Lemon Slice
Posts: 382
Joined: November 9th, 2016, 12:10 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 79 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365320

Postby taken2often » December 11th, 2020, 11:14 pm

To GoSeigen.
You appear to have an open mind. About six of the The Attorney Generals and Govenor's in critical, states all made changes to the voting rules using covid as an excuse. This was illegal as only Legislature can do this. At present they have delegated this to the AG and Govenor's. There are hearings going on regarding all the complaints and perhaps removing the delegated powers. This would then allow a forensic investigation of the votes. Until then the Media keep saying there is no evidence of fraud, the powers that be are denying access.

There is a video which you will not have seen. Where the vote watchers and the bulk of vote checkers are told to go home at 10.00pm and the count would restart at 8.00am. Six people remained in the hall. After the hall was cleared four boxes of votes were removed from under a table and processed during the next two hours. A media organisation confirmed this. I have seen this video I bet you have not.

A lady in in Arizona went to court with a complaint and the judge allowed her the examination of 100 random votes. She found that 2 were illegal and should not have been processed. As a percentage of the vote this would wipe out Joe Bidens lead. A bigger sample is now being checked.

This is not a political matter it is a moral matter and the question has to be how many people would be prepared to corrupt their voting system. It is well known that with Socialist systems the end always justifies the means. Religion has no place in a Socialist society and that is where they are heading. The question is still, is God playing with them for their greater good. Saying that if Trump wins there will be blood on the streets for a time.

You need to do your own investigation, its all out there and more and more evidence every day.

XFool
The full Lemon
Posts: 12636
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 7:21 pm
Been thanked: 2608 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365440

Postby XFool » December 12th, 2020, 1:25 pm

What a very peculiar post!

Obviously I disagree entirely with your assesment of the political situation in the US, but I won't bother putting forward any arguments on this matter, which I regard as self evident. Rather I am simply trying to understand your puzzling post.

You start with this:
taken2often wrote:First I have to state. I am not a believer, but I have had an interesting thought.

I assume you mean here that you are not a believer in God? (Rather than in Trump!)

Then you go on to say:
taken2often wrote:I America there is a man who speaks to God, and God told him many months before the 16 election that he was sending a sinner to fix America and it would be Donald Trump, and it came to pass.

Well, I assume it wasn't you, so who is this "man"? Even as an allusion - what is his significance here?

You end with this:
taken2often wrote:I do hope the Hand of God is tipping the scales.

Which appears to completely contradict where you started!

It may be I am taking your post too literally, but, apart from a mere device to smuggle your political post into The Meaning of Life (Religion and Philosophy) board I cannot for the life of me see the relevance of your God references to the content of the post.

Can you enlighten us?

bungeejumper
Lemon Half
Posts: 8063
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 2:30 pm
Has thanked: 2845 times
Been thanked: 3938 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365487

Postby bungeejumper » December 12th, 2020, 5:13 pm

XFool wrote:It may be I am taking your post too literally, but, apart from a mere device to smuggle your political post into The Meaning of Life (Religion and Philosophy) board I cannot for the life of me see the relevance of your God references to the content of the post.

Can you enlighten us?

Okay, a bit of God stuff. For some time now, the Trump saga has been reminding me of the final scene from Marlowe's Doctor Faustus. Having sold his honest reputation to Mephistopheles for a few years of tawdry fame, the clock strikes and Faustus's misdeeds suddenly come up through the floorboards to claim him. He makes quite a lot of noise about the end of his tenure - offering to repent and to burn his books, and so forth - but it's already far too late for all that. And all that the assembled scholars in the next room can do is listen to his howling descent, and despair for his foolishness, and try to learn the lessons.

No, Faustus never tried to lodge a final appeal with a Supreme Court which he'd pre-emptively loaded with known sympathisers. So he never experienced the humiliation of having that very same heavily-packed bench telling him no dice, and off you go now to face the consequences. It would have made quite an appropriate alternative ending.

BJ

taken2often
Lemon Slice
Posts: 382
Joined: November 9th, 2016, 12:10 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 79 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365563

Postby taken2often » December 13th, 2020, 12:08 am

The man who speaks to God. I accidentally came a cross a Youtube religios channel whilst this chap was speaking, so I listened. This related to what I thought strange, was that the religious community had taken to Trump even with all his faults. As far a I can ascertain no other President has face such continuous attacks and survived them.

Now I notice that no one will even consider the concept of God could have a purpose in these events.

I am not pushing any political points. But I am pointing out that anti religion, corruption and damaged morality is expanding rapidly in the US.

Now as a very large part of the population both here and the US get their information from the mass media who have created this hysterical hatred of Trump, which I think is unfair. The last time I experienced this was with Margret Thatcher. It is all based on emotion rather than logic.

If you are really interested,do some research in areas outwith your normal comfort zone. Here is a good one for you, you will really hate this, but it is based on factual knowledge that I have seen over four years. Donald Trump has done more for the Black Community than any other President other than Lincoln.

This is not political. This is morality question to condemn by having a lack of knowledge and following the herd which seems to be the way of it nowadays.

On a personal note why I would like the Hand of God to tip the scales. I have a lot of US investments and if the Republicans lose the senate the move to the left will ruin the US and I will have to sell up, and this will cost me plenty.

GoSeigen
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 4349
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:14 pm
Has thanked: 1590 times
Been thanked: 1579 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365571

Postby GoSeigen » December 13th, 2020, 6:19 am

taken2often wrote:To GoSeigen.
You appear to have an open mind. About six of the The Attorney Generals and Govenor's in critical, states all made changes to the voting rules using covid as an excuse. This was illegal as only Legislature can do this. At present they have delegated this to the AG and Govenor's. There are hearings going on regarding all the complaints and perhaps removing the delegated powers. This would then allow a forensic investigation of the votes. Until then the Media keep saying there is no evidence of fraud, the powers that be are denying access.

There is a video which you will not have seen. Where the vote watchers and the bulk of vote checkers are told to go home at 10.00pm and the count would restart at 8.00am. Six people remained in the hall. After the hall was cleared four boxes of votes were removed from under a table and processed during the next two hours. A media organisation confirmed this. I have seen this video I bet you have not.

A lady in in Arizona went to court with a complaint and the judge allowed her the examination of 100 random votes. She found that 2 were illegal and should not have been processed. As a percentage of the vote this would wipe out Joe Bidens lead. A bigger sample is now being checked.

This is not a political matter it is a moral matter and the question has to be how many people would be prepared to corrupt their voting system. It is well known that with Socialist systems the end always justifies the means. Religion has no place in a Socialist society and that is where they are heading. The question is still, is God playing with them for their greater good. Saying that if Trump wins there will be blood on the streets for a time.

You need to do your own investigation, its all out there and more and more evidence every day.


I like to think of myself as open-minded, but in reality I would probably be considered a rather critical and cynical person. I've two comments to make here:
1. As others have noted you are telling us all sorts of things -- and thank you for adding more detail so that I could google if I could be bothered -- but to be honest, I am about as bothered as you were to post links to what you have seen and read. Which is to say not bothered at all! However, if you do change your mind and post some links I might go and have a look, because as you guessed I'm at least willing to look at evidence that people present.

2. A certain Mr Trump has been in power along with a Republican Senate for four years or more. Are you suggesting that they have been implementing a Socialist agenda to corrupt the voting system? Or are you arguing that they were simply incompetent to prevent this happening on their watch? I have to say I cannot recall when a party who is in power accuses those NOT in power of having rigged an election -- usually it's the reverse. I suppose it happens but it's a pretty bizarre complaint to make.

GS
'P.S. Who is God? I have an absolutely closed mind when it comes to that nonsense.
EDIT: P.P.S. It's occurred to me that you may not have the technical know-how to post links. If so I apologise for pushing the point.

XFool
The full Lemon
Posts: 12636
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 7:21 pm
Been thanked: 2608 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365618

Postby XFool » December 13th, 2020, 10:46 am

taken2often wrote:The man who speaks to God. I accidentally came a cross a Youtube religios channel whilst this chap was speaking, so I listened. This related to what I thought strange, was that the religious community had taken to Trump even with all his faults.

Indeed! A truly remarkable thing - so this atheist feels. I wonder what it tells us about the US "religious community"?

taken2often wrote:But I am pointing out that anti religion, corruption and damaged morality is expanding rapidly in the US.

I can't help wondering what Trump has contributed in this area. Do you?

taken2often wrote:Now as a very large part of the population both here and the US get their information from the mass media who have created this hysterical hatred of Trump, which I think is unfair. The last time I experienced this was with Margret Thatcher. It is all based on emotion rather than logic.

I think you are making a serious mistake. Margaret Thatcher was indeed, like Trump, divisive; both very popular with some and very unpopular with others. But I doubt, beyond that, many of those who disliked Thatcher would compare her to Trump - who is a very different proposition. You either understand this or not.

The dislike of Trump is based on much more than simply "emotion". He is a self centered wrecker. He is an encourager of fantasy thinking and self delusion. He is proving to be a real danger to the principles and practice of democracy itself in the USA. You either see this or not.

XFool
The full Lemon
Posts: 12636
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 7:21 pm
Been thanked: 2608 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365628

Postby XFool » December 13th, 2020, 11:12 am

XFool wrote:The dislike of Trump is based on much more than simply "emotion". He is a self centered wrecker. He is an encourager of fantasy thinking and self delusion. He is proving to be a real danger to the principles and practice of democracy itself in the USA. You either see this or not.

You could, for instance, do worse than start by reading these two recent (definitely non "socialist"!) articles:

The “Intellectual” Right’s Assault on Democracy

The Bulwark

The Republican Party As Totalitarian State

The Bulwark


P.S. I can also offer this more current article:

Trump supporters chant 'destroy the GOP' at a rally in Washington DC, after Republican officials in Georgia refused to back the president's bid to overturn the election

MSN

taken2often
Lemon Slice
Posts: 382
Joined: November 9th, 2016, 12:10 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 79 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365878

Postby taken2often » December 14th, 2020, 12:08 am

Thank you for responding;. It is clear that you seem to get your knowledge from what I know know to be a corrupt media. As I stated I have been watching this for four over four years and am very disappointed in the wide spread corruption. The election problems has been caused by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The hatred is so deep that some see them as soldiers it is their duty to corrupt the vote, to get Trump out at all cost. It is Democrats, their militant arm Antifa and BLM. Look up their core values. I have spent hours watching evidence being present in a number of the crucial states of voting irregularities. Hundreds of dead people voting. Those who have moved out of state, proven by the Post Office redirect lists and many other items of proof that the vote was rigged. Then we have the corrupt upper levels of the FBI and DOJ. You wont know any of that. It has just been released that Hunter Biden has been under investigation for months but this was concealed as it might have have effected the election. I mean we cannot let the public know that they are electing a very corrupt family and there is plenty of proof about that. It is correct that i am unlikely to have the skills to record and insert links, any way there are just to many. What I can do is give you the names of a few conservative broadcasters. Who could give you a sense of the US morality problems.

A brilliant you black woman described as a white suprematist. A Youtube video Candace Own and Congress. 6 to 8 million views
Larry Elder a Black writer and commentator, just brought out a film called Uncle Tom. This explains how the Democrat Party has abused the Blacks for years
Glen Beck have a look at his breakdown of the Bidens involvement in the Ukraine scandal. Have you seen the video where Joe Biden the VP threatens to withhold aid unless the Ukraine Government sacked the Chief Prosecutor who was investigation the gas company his son was associated with. 83k per month salary. No knowledge of gas, or speak the language. Nice one.

I could go on and on. If Donald Trump had not been so unfairly attacked over these years I would have had no interest in him. It is the entertainment value that keeps me watching. He knows how to press the medias buttons and they have made absolute fools of themselves.

Once again do you have any knowledge of the many good things he has done

How is this for new morality. The Democrats gave the nod that Looting was kind of acceptable someone even said that it could be some for of reparation for slavery. Look up Portland it has No Go areas run by the Mob and I don't mean the Mafia. How about De-funding the Police. Disband the Police Force. Who do you think that would effect the most. It is a growing disaster and it is all cities run by Democrats. What about the Black on Black shooting in Chicago thousands each year. Who cares. We have Black criminal hero's if shot by Police that can be named, but Black children
shot in the street, no one can name them.. As I say on and on

AsleepInYorkshire
Lemon Half
Posts: 7383
Joined: February 7th, 2017, 9:36 pm
Has thanked: 10514 times
Been thanked: 4659 times

Re: The Hand of God

#365879

Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 14th, 2020, 12:11 am

taken2often wrote:Thank you for responding;. It is clear that you seem to get your knowledge from what I know know to be a corrupt media. As I stated I have been watching this for four over four years and am very disappointed in the wide spread corruption. The election problems has been caused by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The hatred is so deep that some see them as soldiers it is their duty to corrupt the vote, to get Trump out at all cost. It is Democrats, their militant arm Antifa and BLM. Look up their core values. I have spent hours watching evidence being present in a number of the crucial states of voting irregularities. Hundreds of dead people voting. Those who have moved out of state, proven by the Post Office redirect lists and many other items of proof that the vote was rigged. Then we have the corrupt upper levels of the FBI and DOJ. You wont know any of that. It has just been released that Hunter Biden has been under investigation for months but this was concealed as it might have have effected the election. I mean we cannot let the public know that they are electing a very corrupt family and there is plenty of proof about that. It is correct that i am unlikely to have the skills to record and insert links, any way there are just to many. What I can do is give you the names of a few conservative broadcasters. Who could give you a sense of the US morality problems.

A brilliant you black woman described as a white suprematist. A Youtube video Candace Own and Congress. 6 to 8 million views
Larry Elder a Black writer and commentator, just brought out a film called Uncle Tom. This explains how the Democrat Party has abused the Blacks for years
Glen Beck have a look at his breakdown of the Bidens involvement in the Ukraine scandal. Have you seen the video where Joe Biden the VP threatens to withhold aid unless the Ukraine Government sacked the Chief Prosecutor who was investigation the gas company his son was associated with. 83k per month salary. No knowledge of gas, or speak the language. Nice one.

I could go on and on. If Donald Trump had not been so unfairly attacked over these years I would have had no interest in him. It is the entertainment value that keeps me watching. He knows how to press the medias buttons and they have made absolute fools of themselves.

Once again do you have any knowledge of the many good things he has done

How is this for new morality. The Democrats gave the nod that Looting was kind of acceptable someone even said that it could be some for of reparation for slavery. Look up Portland it has No Go areas run by the Mob and I don't mean the Mafia. How about De-funding the Police. Disband the Police Force. Who do you think that would effect the most. It is a growing disaster and it is all cities run by Democrats. What about the Black on Black shooting in Chicago thousands each year. Who cares. We have Black criminal hero's if shot by Police that can be named, but Black children
shot in the street, no one can name them.. As I say on and on

I think you've got the wrong board

AiY

XFool
The full Lemon
Posts: 12636
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 7:21 pm
Been thanked: 2608 times

Re: The Hand of God

#366104

Postby XFool » December 14th, 2020, 3:02 pm

taken2often wrote:Thank you for responding;. It is clear that you seem to get your knowledge from what I know know to be a corrupt media.

You are (in a way) right! I am nothing if not conventional, so I do indeed prefer to get my information and views from what I feel to be reliable, sensible and trustworthy media - rather than 'alternative' sources on the Internet.

I am a little bit interested in how you now came to "know" such media is "corrupt". Plus, for instance, how do you know your sources are reliable?

taken2often wrote:As I stated I have been watching this for four over four years and am very disappointed in the wide spread corruption. The election problems has been caused by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The hatred is so deep that some see them as soldiers it is their duty to corrupt the vote, to get Trump out at all cost. It is Democrats, their militant arm Antifa and BLM. Look up their core values. I have spent hours watching evidence being present in a number of the crucial states of voting irregularities. Hundreds of dead people voting. Those who have moved out of state, proven by the Post Office redirect lists and many other items of proof that the vote was rigged.

Watching what, exactly? YouTube videos? What I know is that, on the Internet, you can find 'evidence' and 'proof' for just about anything you want!

'proof' that AIDS is not caused by HIV
'proof' that the moon landings never happened.
'proof' that the 2001 WTC collapse was a inside job.
'proof' that the Earth is really flat and NASA has been "Deceiving us for 50 years".
'proof' that Trump won the presidential election and it has been stolen from him by election fraud.

taken2often wrote:I could go on and on. If Donald Trump had not been so unfairly attacked over these years I would have had no interest in him. It is the entertainment value that keeps me watching.

Me too. :)

taken2often wrote:Once again do you have any knowledge of the many good things he has done

Do you have any regard for the scale of the bad things he has done and is doing?

taken2often wrote:How is this for new morality. The Democrats gave the nod that Looting was kind of acceptable someone even said that it could be some for of reparation for slavery. Look up Portland it has No Go areas run by the Mob and I don't mean the Mafia. How about De-funding the Police. Disband the Police Force. Who do you think that would effect the most. It is a growing disaster and it is all cities run by Democrats. What about the Black on Black shooting in Chicago thousands each year. Who cares. We have Black criminal hero's if shot by Police that can be named, but Black children
shot in the street, no one can name them.. As I say on and on

Are any of these official Democratic Party policies, or are they only things said by some individuals whose politics you disagree with?

To return to 2001 and the WTC. It was after that, and seeing the various responses to it online, that I fell to pondering over Conspiracy Theory thinking. I kind of felt at the time that such thinking might gradually, over time, possibly become more and more mainstream. Well, the future is now!

Look at the USA currently. My only regret now is that I was (typically) too tentative in my thinking, back in 2001.

bungeejumper
Lemon Half
Posts: 8063
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 2:30 pm
Has thanked: 2845 times
Been thanked: 3938 times

Re: The Hand of God

#366154

Postby bungeejumper » December 14th, 2020, 4:48 pm

Come back beeswax, all is forgiven. :roll:

BJ

taken2often
Lemon Slice
Posts: 382
Joined: November 9th, 2016, 12:10 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 79 times

Re: The Hand of God

#366291

Postby taken2often » December 14th, 2020, 11:25 pm

A number of state Legislators who are unhappy about their state executives and courts changing the voting law's. They have been carrying out investigations in court like hearing. The Georgian one seems to being showing up some of the worst abuse. The false votes vastly outnumber the Biden majority. So we wait and see.

I would like you to tell me what bad things Donald Trump has done over the past four years. I have seen nothing that was against the majorities interest in the US. He is far from perfect, but he appears to be the first President to resist the establishment, and they hate him for it. He has been manipulated by taking advice and allowing enemies into senior positions, who then worked against him.

See you trust the media for your news and I used to. Here in the UK it is not too bad, mostly Liberal to Left wing bias. In the US media have given up on any journalistic integrity. Brennan and Clapper ex CIA and Homeland security both stood up in Congress and swore under Oath that they had found no evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump Team. They then get employed in mainstream media and state all the time that Trump is a traitor and in the pocket of Putin. How is it all the attacks over the four years have all failed, even impeachment.

How about some of the good things that impressed me. He sorted out the Veterans Medical disaster. He changed the law so that employees could be fired, many were taking the salary but not providing service, many of the veterans were dying due to lack of treatment. He also made it possible that if a veteran did get treatment within three weeks they could go to any doctor and the government would pay.

He made the Nato countries dramatically increase their payments up to the agreed percentage. The one we pay. He found out that Germany were buying vast amounts of gas from the Russians but expected the US to defend them and not pay their share.

He has negotiated four middle east peace deals that had not been possible before. Most probably due to the fear of Iran.

Every year The Principals of Black colleges had to go to the White House to ask for funding. When they arrived on his second year. He gave them 10 years of funding.

He approved of a Capital Gains scheme proposed by a black politician. Special allowances if investment was made to redevelop very poor areas, which turned out to be mostly black. This was transforming the job prospects. Before the virus there was the lowest black unemployment in years.

Another proposal he managed to get Bi Partisan agreement on was allowing long term prisoners on relatively minor crimes but inhuman sentences released. This is the work of a racist.

The Wall a complete turn round by the Democrats. Because he wanted it they and the Media had to oppose. So what happens the wall goes up illegal immigration goes down. Wages for the poor start to rise. Who gets the most benefit the Blacks and Hispanics. Who dramatically increased their vote for Trump. How dumb is that.

Any way only scratching the surface. Your turn now.

A really good Youtube watch is Viva Frie and Robert Barnes discuss the weeks legal issues. Viva is a Canadian Lawyer and Robert Barnes is a US lawyer his knowledge of the law and constitution law appears immense. Their discussion is on Sunday night I watch on Monday.


Return to “The Meaning of Life”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests