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Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 13th, 2021, 8:39 am
by bungeejumper
XFool wrote:The American Abyss
[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/magazine/trump-coup.html]The New York Times Magazine[/url
Excellent argument, that expresses a lot of pretty obvious points that need saying more clearly.
Post-truth is pre-fascism, and Trump has been our post-truth president. When we give up on truth, we concede power to those with the wealth and charisma to create spectacle in its place. Without agreement about some basic facts, citizens cannot form the civil society that would allow them to defend themselves. If we lose the institutions that produce facts that are pertinent to us, then we tend to wallow in attractive abstractions and fictions. Truth defends itself particularly poorly when there is not very much of it around
That would have been no news to Goebbels, who wrote a whole treatise about what you could do if you could only defeat the public's faith in the truth by means of an avalanche of lies. It messes up the brain. And then the messed-up brain messes up everything else, and you've got 'em all roped and tied.
BJ
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 13th, 2021, 3:06 pm
by XFool
For an amusing take on the recent history of the US Republican Party and how we got to where we are:
BBC Sounds: The Republicans
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 13th, 2021, 4:11 pm
by ReformedCharacter
bungeejumper wrote:That would have been no news to Goebbels, who wrote a whole treatise about what you could do if you could only defeat the public's faith in the truth by means of an avalanche of lies. It messes up the brain. And then the messed-up brain messes up everything else, and you've got 'em all roped and tied.
BJ
Interesting comment about Goebbels, having listened to one of Donny junior's post-election rants about 'Total War':
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 34841.html...to fight each and every one to the death...
I can't be the only person to have recognised the phrase made famous by Goebbels at the speech he made at the Sportpalast in 1943.
The man knows no shame, like his father.
RC
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 20th, 2021, 8:53 pm
by ursaminortaur
bluedonkey wrote:Something tells me that this answer may not be acceptable.
And now fully confirmed that God has not intervened as Biden has been inaugurated as President. Trump broke with tradition by not attending his successor's inauguration and instead flew to Joint Base Andrews a military base in Maryland for what was a sparsely attended sendoff ceremony - many leading Republicans instead attending Biden's inauguration. He then left for Mar-a-Lago in Florida where he intends to live.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/20/trump-leaves-white-house-biden-to-be-sworn-in
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 21st, 2021, 9:52 am
by bungeejumper
ursaminortaur wrote:Trump broke with tradition by not attending his successor's inauguration and instead flew to Joint Base Andrews a military base in Maryland for what was a sparsely attended sendoff ceremony - many leading Republicans instead attending Biden's inauguration.
But not without his 21 bum salute, I notice. I seriously doubted whether he'd be given that honour, but I suppose the military figured it was the easiest way to get him off the premises?
He then left for Mar-a-Lago in Florida where he intends to live.
Well, he can't live there of course, because he's only allowed to reside there for three weeks at a time. I gather that the Trump clan have clubbed together to buy a $40 million building plot on the coast, where they can all live together. Sounds good to me. Anybody know where we can get a big beautiful wall built?
BJ
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 21st, 2021, 11:31 am
by XFool
bungeejumper wrote:ursaminortaur wrote:Trump broke with tradition by not attending his successor's inauguration and instead flew to Joint Base Andrews a military base in Maryland for what was a sparsely attended sendoff ceremony - many leading Republicans instead attending Biden's inauguration.
But not without his 21 bum salute, I notice.
That's certainly novel! Perhaps appropriate though...
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 21st, 2021, 12:24 pm
by bungeejumper
XFool wrote:bungeejumper wrote:But not without his 21 bum salute, I notice.
That's certainly novel! Perhaps appropriate though...
Yeah, it was a real disappointment. Twenty one shells, and they all missed.
BJ
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 23rd, 2021, 2:19 pm
by argoal
The Storm gave us a bright sunny day, the Kraken was a tadpole and there was no Plan B.
What is a duped conspiracy theorist to do?
Do you double down, do you admit defeat, or do you slink off quietly and hope no one remembers that you swallowed the lies of a blagger on the internet.
Oh, Q, why have thou forsaken us?
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 24th, 2021, 10:09 pm
by XFool
I wonder if
taken2often watched this evening's BBC 2 TV programme at 9pm -
The Trump Show: Downfall 
If he did, I doubt he enjoyed it as much as I did. Loved that Citizen Kane analysis.
The BBC used the
subjective "far fetched" description once again; same presentation, same crazy people! (But, let's not go there, huh?)
Insanity. Pure insanity...
Re: The Hand of God
Posted: January 25th, 2021, 5:50 am
by Itsallaguess
Moderator Message:
I think this topic has probably run it's course now, given the recent events on the other side of the Atlantic, so I'll now lock this thread - Itsallaguess