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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby look » July 27th, 2020, 2:47 pm

sg31 wrote:I know nothing about those capsules but as far as I'm aware non invasive ventiation is now standard practice in many areas. It has reduced the need for ventilators dramatically although that option is still used if non invasive techniques do not work.

My knowledge of this is a little dated now.

I've no idea if the inventor of the 'Vanessa' capsule was the first to suggest non invasive ventilation but I doubt it. Mr Google had no hits under Vanessa Capsule when I looked this morning although the inventer could have published his findings under some other title.



It seems that you didn't watch the video. It's not the first ... but it's cheap and good, they say.
The video has legends in english. Here a link with text in english.

https://www.republicworld.com/world-new ... ients.html

it seems it didn't get the attention of world midia.

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby redsturgeon » July 27th, 2020, 8:05 pm

sg31 wrote:I know nothing about those capsules but as far as I'm aware non invasive ventiation is now standard practice in many areas. It has reduced the need for ventilators dramatically although that option is still used if non invasive techniques do not work.

My knowledge of this is a little dated now.

I've no idea if the inventor of the 'Vanessa' capsule was the first to suggest non invasive ventilation but I doubt it. Mr Google had no hits under Vanessa Capsule when I looked this morning although the inventer could have published his findings under some other title.



I got a few hits, all dating around the end of May from Brazil. As you say trying to avoid forced ventilation at all cost seems to be standard practice these days and has saved many lives.

Seems like nothing new to see here though.

John

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby look » July 27th, 2020, 9:24 pm

it seems that towns accept to use that device (vanessa capsules) only when the health system is collapsed.

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby servodude » July 28th, 2020, 3:50 am

look wrote:it seems that towns accept to use that device (vanessa capsules) only when the health system is collapsed.


Hi Look

The "vanessa capsule" you've linked to will go some way to solving space problems when there is overcrowding in the hospital
- specifically where you cannot isolate COVID patients from the uninfected

Doing this is a good idea because the process of NIV has been shown to disperse pathogens exhaled by a patient (they need to exhale, the virus is in their respiratory tract and the system is not closed to the outside world - so add a bit of positive pressure and the exhaled virus is dispersed quite effectively)
- having a bit of a small negative pressure enclosure works as an extractor for these unwanted bits

So if you have no other option this will help; it would be nicer though to be treated in a sealed room by staff who are suitably protected, rather than spend your treatment under a plastic bubble

The actual ventilation in the video is being done by a ResMed Stellar 150 (https://www.resmed.com/au/en/healthcare ... r-150.html)
- these are very good devices for this purpose

-sd

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby feder1 » July 30th, 2020, 5:39 pm

We see today there were 846 “cases” of the virus reported to Worldometers.

DAK the makeup of these people in all the usual parameters please?

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby feder1 » August 7th, 2020, 12:24 pm

This site calculates your age from a virus point of view.

Luckily I came out a little lower than real age. Mrs F was a little higher.

https://profile.covid-age.com/

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby Snorvey » August 10th, 2020, 5:20 pm

Ach well, they win.

Today was my last day at daily cycling. Since I started back in March I've clocked up nearly 1500 miles and only filled the car up once, but it's just getting too busy now. Probably about 80% of my run is on a pretty (in parts) dilapidated cyclepath but that's better than nothing. The other 20% is on roads and crossing junctions etc. If it's not the impatient dickheads in their outsized crates it's the constant noise and pollution.

And with the schools going back tomorrow, it's going to be far worse.

So, they win and tomorrow I pick up my car keys. There was a golden chance to change things, but the popular option of just hopping in the car is seemingly well endorsed by the government, so who am I to fight it?

Depressing.


Snorvey

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby johnhemming » August 10th, 2020, 5:49 pm

In London it looks like some real effort has gone into cycle lanes.

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby Mike4 » August 10th, 2020, 6:30 pm

johnhemming wrote:In London it looks like some real effort has gone into cycle lanes.


Yes I noticed that too the other day on a trip in. Some of the new cycle lanes actually have their own pair of bike-priority traffic lights at junctions, in much the same way as some of the bus lanes have. Obeyed to my surprise by about 90% of the cyclists out on the day I was there..

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby feder1 » August 25th, 2020, 12:00 pm

Mouthwash possibilities to battle the virus?

It,s about time scientists woke up to this. I think someone said something like this awhile ago, but I can,t remember who it was!


“Study to determine whether mouthwash could help prevent coronavirus spread

Scientists are looking into whether mouthwash has the potential to reduce the levels of COVID-19 in saliva.

UK mouthwash brand Dentyl is taking part in the study led by Cardiff University. “

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby Itsallaguess » September 3rd, 2020, 3:25 pm

U.S. drugmaker Pfizer said it should know by the end of October whether a COVID-19 vaccine it is developing is successful, and will submit it for approval immediately if that is the case.

Pfizer has enrolled 23,000 patients in vaccine tests as of Wednesday, its Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in an online briefing sponsored by drug industry group International Federation of Pharmaceuticals Manufacturers & Association.

Pfizer has already manufactured hundreds of thousands of doses of the vaccine candidate, including at a plant in Belgium, Bourla added.

The U.S. drugmaker is in the race to come up with a vaccine with its partner, Germany’s BioNTech.


https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-drugs/pfizer-targets-end-of-next-month-for-covid-19-vaccine-update-idUKKBN25U22M

Cheers,

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby Itsallaguess » September 4th, 2020, 4:17 pm

Russia’s “Sputnik-V” COVID-19 vaccine produced an antibody response in all participants in early-stage trials, according to results published on Friday by The Lancet medical journal that were hailed by Moscow as an answer to its critics.

The results of the two trials, conducted in June-July this year and involving 76 participants, showed 100% of participants developing antibodies to the new coronavirus and no serious side effects, The Lancet said.

Russia licensed the two-shot jab for domestic use in August, the first country to do so and before any data had been published or a large-scale trial begun.

“The two 42-day trials – including 38 healthy adults each – did not find any serious adverse effects among participants, and confirmed that the vaccine candidates elicit an antibody response,” The Lancet said.

“Large, long-term trials including a placebo comparison, and further monitoring are needed to establish the long-term safety and effectiveness of the vaccine for preventing COVID-19 infection,” it said.

The vaccine is named Sputnik-V in homage to the world’s first satellite, launched by the Soviet Union. Some Western experts have warned against its use until all internationally approved testing and regulatory steps have been taken.

But with the results now published for the first time in an international peer-reviewed journal, and with a 40,000-strong later-stage trial launched last week, a senior Russian official said Moscow had faced down its critics abroad.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-vaccine/results-of-russias-covid-19-vaccine-produced-antibody-response-the-lancet-idUSKBN25V1I2

Link to the Lancet article - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31866-3/fulltext

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby look » September 16th, 2020, 1:45 am

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bloo ... 31546.html

it seems logical, but logics has oppositors...

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby look » September 16th, 2020, 2:09 am

servodude wrote:
look wrote:it seems that towns accept to use that device (vanessa capsules) only when the health system is collapsed.


Hi Look

The "vanessa capsule" you've linked to will go some way to solving space problems when there is overcrowding in the hospital
- specifically where you cannot isolate COVID patients from the uninfected

Doing this is a good idea because the process of NIV has been shown to disperse pathogens exhaled by a patient (they need to exhale, the virus is in their respiratory tract and the system is not closed to the outside world - so add a bit of positive pressure and the exhaled virus is dispersed quite effectively)
- having a bit of a small negative pressure enclosure works as an extractor for these unwanted bits

So if you have no other option this will help; it would be nicer though to be treated in a sealed room by staff who are suitably protected, rather than spend your treatment under a plastic bubble

The actual ventilation in the video is being done by a ResMed Stellar 150 (https://www.resmed.com/au/en/healthcare ... r-150.html)
- these are very good devices for this purpose

-sd


I think the people (commom people and health professionals) have undervalued those vanessa capsules. Your information that they use a resmed stellar 150 is important, i suppose it's a bipap. Based on your explanation, the doctors have a big reason to not use this resmed and other equivalents, it's dangerous to the doctors. The vanessa capsules prevents that danger, that's very important.

you mention sealed room and staff who are... i suppose this is a exception.

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby servodude » September 16th, 2020, 3:03 am

look wrote:
servodude wrote:
look wrote:it seems that towns accept to use that device (vanessa capsules) only when the health system is collapsed.


Hi Look

The "vanessa capsule" you've linked to will go some way to solving space problems when there is overcrowding in the hospital
- specifically where you cannot isolate COVID patients from the uninfected

Doing this is a good idea because the process of NIV has been shown to disperse pathogens exhaled by a patient (they need to exhale, the virus is in their respiratory tract and the system is not closed to the outside world - so add a bit of positive pressure and the exhaled virus is dispersed quite effectively)
- having a bit of a small negative pressure enclosure works as an extractor for these unwanted bits

So if you have no other option this will help; it would be nicer though to be treated in a sealed room by staff who are suitably protected, rather than spend your treatment under a plastic bubble

The actual ventilation in the video is being done by a ResMed Stellar 150 (https://www.resmed.com/au/en/healthcare ... r-150.html)
- these are very good devices for this purpose

-sd


I think the people (commom people and health professionals) have undervalued those vanessa capsules. Your information that they use a resmed stellar 150 is important, i suppose it's a bipap. Based on your explanation, the doctors have a big reason to not use this resmed and other equivalents, it's dangerous to the doctors. The vanessa capsules prevents that danger, that's very important.

you mention sealed room and staff who are... i suppose this is a exception.


Indeed
BIPAP or NIV will make the air around a patient infectious; that doesn't stop the doctors from using it, they just need to be mindful of it.
By the very nature of the job plenty of stuff doctors have to be exposed to is dangerous to them.

There are a few systems like the "vanessa capsules" about:
- the more effective ones use negative pressure to extract the pathogen (https://about.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/n ... -19-spread)
- or the "helmet" ventilator which is a bit of an extreme variation (https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefr ... y-distress)

I don't think they've been undervalued per se, it's more that they are not necessary for treatment
They only really help in the case where there is no other way to isolate COVID patients from uninfected people and until it gets that bad it's a lot more comfortable for patients to be in a well ventilated or isolated space

-sd

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby look » September 16th, 2020, 9:37 pm

the unimelb edu au video is very interesting. I think that the hoot ventilator system it is a kind of vanessa capsule. I recommend that all posters read the link.

the guys of vanessa capsules include more things in their recommended system, like the bipap, the fast treatment, the medicines, etc.

i think some readers are asking: why does that guy write so oftenabout the vanessa capsules? they didn't save brazil from the covid. My answer is that the number os hospitals that addopt it is below 1% of the hospitals.

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby look » September 16th, 2020, 9:41 pm

Servodude, you wrote:

"BIPAP or NIV will make the air around a patient infectious; that doesn't stop the doctors from using it,

I agree with the first sentence, I desagree with the second.

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby servodude » September 16th, 2020, 11:40 pm

look wrote:Servodude, you wrote:

"BIPAP or NIV will make the air around a patient infectious; that doesn't stop the doctors from using it,

I agree with the first sentence, I desagree with the second.


I can see why you might be suspicious but NIV manufacturers have struggled to keep up with the demand for machines during the pandemic; they are being used in record numbers.

-sd

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby feder1 » September 17th, 2020, 2:42 pm

Covid sufferers seem much less likely to be full time spectacle wearers:

Various articles in newspapers about a Chinese study of almost 300 patients seem to indicate that 5 x more patients are not full time spec wearers.

The eyes can be a source of virus entry and maybe specs are something of a barrier.

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Re: Coronavirus Health

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Postby look » September 20th, 2020, 4:31 am

Doctor$ like to u$e ITU$.


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