dealtn wrote:Yes I get your point. Do you get mine?
Hi Dealtn, yes and I completely agree. I just wanted to clarify my previous comment as to why I think washing hands is good advice.
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dealtn wrote:Yes I get your point. Do you get mine?
dealtn wrote:Jonetc15 wrote: I hardly dare ask for comments
Having the butler iron it should kill any germs surely?
dealtn wrote:
If it is extremely unlikely for someone doing 1,000s of such interactions consistently throughout the lockdown period and through the time when the virus was at its peak in the community, it must be extremely, extremely unlikely for the recipient of a single transaction to be exposed, and as a result get infected through this medium.
dealtn wrote:Hypster wrote:I don’t think I expressed my point clearly. Let me try again.
The fact that an Amazon parcel has taken two days to arrive, or that the postie is wearing gloves does not mean that the risk of picking up the virus from surfaces of the mail has diminished.
My point was that an infected person elsewhere can transmit the virus to you without the two of you ever meeting, via the posties gloved hands. And without the postie getting the virus themselves.
Yes I get your point. Do you get mine?
A person receiving such a parcel is just one of many millions taking place. Given there are many millions taking place, and that the people most exposed to this, such as postmen and Amazon delivery drivers who will have taken literally 1,000s of deliveries during the lockdown period, aren't regularly being seen on the news or being spoken about as being particularly exposed, getting infected, dying etc. unlike some groups, it isn't hard to justify the claim that infection through this medium is extremely unlikely.
If it is extremely unlikely for someone doing 1,000s of such interactions consistently throughout the lockdown period and through the time when the virus was at its peak in the community, it must be extremely, extremely unlikely for the recipient of a single transaction to be exposed, and as a result get infected through this medium. I would expect the same to apply to newspapers.
Your postman or Amazon delivery driver is more likely to be injured that day in a road accident delivering his parcels than catching the virus from your parcel. I doubt he even considers the possibility of that road accident risk as he goes about his work.
Mike4 wrote:dealtn wrote:Hypster wrote:I don’t think I expressed my point clearly. Let me try again.
The fact that an Amazon parcel has taken two days to arrive, or that the postie is wearing gloves does not mean that the risk of picking up the virus from surfaces of the mail has diminished.
My point was that an infected person elsewhere can transmit the virus to you without the two of you ever meeting, via the posties gloved hands. And without the postie getting the virus themselves.
Yes I get your point. Do you get mine?
A person receiving such a parcel is just one of many millions taking place. Given there are many millions taking place, and that the people most exposed to this, such as postmen and Amazon delivery drivers who will have taken literally 1,000s of deliveries during the lockdown period, aren't regularly being seen on the news or being spoken about as being particularly exposed, getting infected, dying etc. unlike some groups, it isn't hard to justify the claim that infection through this medium is extremely unlikely.
If it is extremely unlikely for someone doing 1,000s of such interactions consistently throughout the lockdown period and through the time when the virus was at its peak in the community, it must be extremely, extremely unlikely for the recipient of a single transaction to be exposed, and as a result get infected through this medium. I would expect the same to apply to newspapers.
Your postman or Amazon delivery driver is more likely to be injured that day in a road accident delivering his parcels than catching the virus from your parcel. I doubt he even considers the possibility of that road accident risk as he goes about his work.
Firstly, you have no idea how many postal and Amazon workers have the virus, because some cases (many, some argue) are asymptomatic. So some workers at the post office could be shedding virus but be feeling fine. Point is, that no-one knows how many people are infected asymptomatically yet shedding virus. It could be 0.001% of the population, it could be 50% of the population.
Secondly, there was a case in the news today where a building firm tested all of their apparently fit and healthy workforce and 53% tested positive. So it is quite possible that postal workers and Amazon delivery bods fall into the same bracket, ARE infected asymptomatically and are cheerfully spreading the virus as they go about their work. How would you know?
Itsallaguess wrote:Those gloves touch an awful lot of things on the outside of the gloves though...
dealtn wrote:Itsallaguess wrote:
Those gloves touch an awful lot of things on the outside of the gloves though...
Including the face/nose/eyes of the posties!
didds wrote:
are they using a separate set of gloves for each household?
if not, and they have eg one set of gloves for an entire round, that's no different than not wearing gloves wrt spreading CV19 AIUI?
Itsallaguess wrote:didds wrote:
are they using a separate set of gloves for each household?
if not, and they have eg one set of gloves for an entire round, that's no different than not wearing gloves wrt spreading CV19 AIUI?
But that's the whole point....
It is different to not wearing gloves, because it's still protecting the wearer, but it's not necessarily protecting anyone else further downstream in the delivery process...
UncleEbenezer wrote:Alternative thought on newspapers.
Does tired of reading them online actually mean tired of staring at a computer screen to read them?
If so, you might benefit from switching to an e-ink screen. Those are mostly found on e-readers, and many people find them easier on the eyes than a regular screen. Just take care what you get: some devices have blurred the distinction between e-reader and multimedia entertainment, so for example the kindle fire is just a small tablet without the advantages of a reader.
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