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vermouth, pronunciation
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
I've heard both, mind you I heard a woman pronounce pizzeria as piss-area once...
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
Depends where you are...
Italy it is Verrrmutt
In Spanish it is "Verrmote" with the o being more like 'moat' thann route.
In Normal use it is Vermooth.
In Plymouth it rhymes with Plymouth.
Italy it is Verrrmutt
In Spanish it is "Verrmote" with the o being more like 'moat' thann route.
In Normal use it is Vermooth.
In Plymouth it rhymes with Plymouth.
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
https://youtu.be/dl3mRjydcPw?t=171
Hearts full of youth, hearts full of truth... Six parts gin to one part vermouth!
Hearts full of youth, hearts full of truth... Six parts gin to one part vermouth!
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
It's one of those where it's evolving from a "traditional" pronunciation which doesn't quite match the spelling, to a more literal spelling as people are more likely to read its name in a book than hear someone use it in speech. Compare with Shrosebree/Shrewsberry. Originally it comes from wermut, the German for wormwood, pronounced "vare-moot" ("vare as in "dare"), so the "oo" sound is the "original" and made it into the French form vermouth.
I think I'd tend to use "oo" but probably sometimes use "uh", I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's certainly not as loaded as the Shrose/Shrews one!!!
I think I'd tend to use "oo" but probably sometimes use "uh", I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's certainly not as loaded as the Shrose/Shrews one!!!
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
Hallucigenia wrote:I think I'd tend to use "oo" but probably sometimes use "uh", I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's certainly not as loaded as the Shrose/Shrews one!!!
I also use "oo" but without the 'h' on the end, so : vermoot
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
Hallucigenia wrote:I think I'd tend to use "oo" but probably sometimes use "uh", I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's certainly not as loaded as the Shrose/Shrews one!!!
ITYF there is only one "R" in Shrewsbury, and that is at the end.
Paul (in Shoesbury)
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
AleisterCrowley wrote:Ver-muth
Ver-mooth?
Other?
Americans Vermooth
UK Verrmuth
Too much TV influence.
TJH
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
I am amazed that so far Italy Spain and USA have been mentioned (Germany gets a frre pass as the place of origin)
We are in Britain so surely how it is pronounced here is what the OP was asking
We are in Britain so surely how it is pronounced here is what the OP was asking
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
Hallucigenia wrote:It's one of those where it's evolving from a "traditional" pronunciation which doesn't quite match the spelling, to a more literal spelling as people are more likely to read its name in a book than hear someone use it in speech. Compare with Shrosebree/Shrewsberry. Originally it comes from wermut, the German for wormwood, pronounced "vare-moot" ("vare as in "dare"), so the "oo" sound is the "original" and made it into the French form vermouth.
I think I'd tend to use "oo" but probably sometimes use "uh", I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's certainly not as loaded as the Shrose/Shrews one!!!
Well, there's only one correct answer to the Shrosebree/Shrewsberry question !
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
AleisterCrowley wrote:Ver-muth
Ver-mooth?
Other?
Vermouth is as to youth,
as donkey is to monkey
So ask for Noily Pratt
when served it by your flunkey
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
I've always tended towards the vermooth end of the spectrum, so will continue in the knowledge that I'm not provably wrong!
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
AleisterCrowley wrote:I've always tended towards the vermooth end of the spectrum, so will continue in the knowledge that I'm not provably wrong!
If you're drinking the stuff... you might be!?
I'll admit I'm biased and I know it's because of an early 90s promotion that I suffered through.
My folks went on holiday and left a bunch of pizzas in the freezer
... microwave pizzas... so the posh stuff (they were normally deep fried this side of Glasgow)
Tokens from two pizza boxes got you a bottle of Cinzano.. you just had to cut them out and go to Tesco!
But this was a joint promotion... so each bottle of Cinzano got you a pizza (they might have been Ottker or some weird "not very Italian because you could cook them in a microwave" brand)
So... the olds left at least 8 pizzas (there were a few of us weans and pals about ) for a fortnight... which begat 4 bottles of Cinzano... which begat 4 pizzas... and another 2 bottles of Cinzano... another two pizzas and the final bottle of Cinzano with a token left over.
Which is to say that as a hard up student from one of the poorest (and famously tight fisted) parts of the UK when presented with a cornucopia of vermoothy bottles... I tried really hard.... but I couldn't really find any way to make the horrendous bile palatable
Just saying
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
I wouldn't drink it neat
It's an essential part of an Americano though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americano_(cocktail)
-good enough for James Bond, good enough for me (although I prefer a Sea Breeze)
It's an essential part of an Americano though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americano_(cocktail)
-good enough for James Bond, good enough for me (although I prefer a Sea Breeze)
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
My mother always drank a glass of Gin and French before supper. But my Mother-in-law always favoured a Gin and It. So we had to buy both a bottle of Noilly and a Martini Extra Dry. We never called either Vermouth (however pronounced).
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
Eboli wrote:My mother always drank a glass of Gin and French before supper. But my Mother-in-law always favoured a Gin and It. So we had to buy both a bottle of Noilly and a Martini Extra Dry. We never called either Vermouth (however pronounced).
Vermouth is the generic term for the brand names you cited.
Then again both my grandmothers drank sherry so what do I know? Their husbands both drank beer. Guess I am not as posh as what you is.
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Re: vermouth, pronunciation
There is no logic to pronunciation, especially English pronunciation, and even more especially if your surname is Cholmondeley or Wrottesley.
We'll begin with box, and the plural is boxes;
But the plural of ox should be oxen, not oxes.
Then one fowl is goose, but two are called geese,
Yet the plural of moose should never be meese.
You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice,
Yet the plural of house is houses, not hice.
If the plural of man is always called men,
Why shouldn't the plural of pan be called pen?
The cow in the plural may be cows or kine,
But the plural of vow is vows, not vine.
I speak of my foot and show you my feet,
If I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth, and a whole set are teeth,
Why shouldn't the plural of booth be called beeth?
If the singular is this and the plural is these,
Why shouldn't the plural of kiss be named kese?
Then one may be that, and three may be those,
Yet the plural of hat would never be hose;
We speak of a brother, and also of brethren,
But though we say mother, we never say methren.
The masculine pronouns are he, his and him,
But imagine the feminine she, shis, and shim!
So our English, I think, you all will agree,
Is the craziest language you ever did see.
I take it you already know
Of tough and bough and cough and dough?
Others may stumble, but not you,
On hiccough, thorough, slough, and through?
Well done! And now you wish, perhaps
To learn of less familiar traps?
Beware of heard, a dreadful word,
That looks like beard and sounds like bird.
And dead; it's said like bed, not bead;
For goodness sake, don't call it deed!
Watch out for meat and great and threat;
They rhyme with suite and straight and debt.
A moth is not a moth in mother,
Nor both in bother, broth in brother.
And here is not a match for there,
Or dear and fear for bear and pear.
And then there's dose and rose and lose,
Just look them up, and goose and choose.
And cork and work and card and ward,
And font and front and word and sword.
And do and go, then thwart and cart.
Come, come, I've hardly made a start.
A dreadful language? Why, man alive,
I'd learned to talk it when I was five,
And yet to write it, the more I tried,
I hadn't learned it at fifty-five!
Attribution Anon - there are umpteen versions.
We'll begin with box, and the plural is boxes;
But the plural of ox should be oxen, not oxes.
Then one fowl is goose, but two are called geese,
Yet the plural of moose should never be meese.
You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice,
Yet the plural of house is houses, not hice.
If the plural of man is always called men,
Why shouldn't the plural of pan be called pen?
The cow in the plural may be cows or kine,
But the plural of vow is vows, not vine.
I speak of my foot and show you my feet,
If I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth, and a whole set are teeth,
Why shouldn't the plural of booth be called beeth?
If the singular is this and the plural is these,
Why shouldn't the plural of kiss be named kese?
Then one may be that, and three may be those,
Yet the plural of hat would never be hose;
We speak of a brother, and also of brethren,
But though we say mother, we never say methren.
The masculine pronouns are he, his and him,
But imagine the feminine she, shis, and shim!
So our English, I think, you all will agree,
Is the craziest language you ever did see.
I take it you already know
Of tough and bough and cough and dough?
Others may stumble, but not you,
On hiccough, thorough, slough, and through?
Well done! And now you wish, perhaps
To learn of less familiar traps?
Beware of heard, a dreadful word,
That looks like beard and sounds like bird.
And dead; it's said like bed, not bead;
For goodness sake, don't call it deed!
Watch out for meat and great and threat;
They rhyme with suite and straight and debt.
A moth is not a moth in mother,
Nor both in bother, broth in brother.
And here is not a match for there,
Or dear and fear for bear and pear.
And then there's dose and rose and lose,
Just look them up, and goose and choose.
And cork and work and card and ward,
And font and front and word and sword.
And do and go, then thwart and cart.
Come, come, I've hardly made a start.
A dreadful language? Why, man alive,
I'd learned to talk it when I was five,
And yet to write it, the more I tried,
I hadn't learned it at fifty-five!
Attribution Anon - there are umpteen versions.
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