Hear my Song / La Traviata

[didds]

Back in 1993 my wife and I watched a film "Hear My Song" based on the Irish tenor Josef Locke. In it feartured a song he became famous for " Hear my Song, Violetta". Its a song that has featured in our lives considerably in the intervening 25 years.

Lats night we attended a stunning live screening of "La Traviata" from the RoH. Neither of us "know" LT at all... WE learned that the heroine of LT is named "Violetta" .. in the introductory music as the show opens (prelude? overture?) there are the UNMISTAKABLE strains of Locke's song in parts!

(circa 02:20 onwards for a bit at leats in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqWE-_3roCo)

In 25 years we'd not heard of the connection between HMS and LT... I googled when we got home last night but could find only one very small reference connecting the two, and one oblique reference in an article heading about a Jonathon Miller production of LT.

DAK any more about the homage in HMS, or have any better online references?

Tx!

didds

[marronier]

Classical and traditional music has long been raided for themes in popular songs.


Elvis Presley's "It's now or never" from " O Sole Mio " and "Wooden Heart" from Germany's traditional "Mussi Denn" .


Chopin's Fantasy Impromtu provides "I'm always chasing rainbows".

[mike]

Kismet was all Borodin melodies.

[neversay]

Oooh, good game. Here's a list:

https://www.classicfm.com/discover-musi ... -bach-air/

I hadn't noticed that Lady Gaga's Bad Romance was based on Bach's The Well Tempered Clavier

[Clariman]

From Wikipedia

In 1947, too, Locke released Hear My Song, Violetta, which became forever associated with him. Hear My Song, Violetta was based on a 1936 tango Hör' mein Lied, Violetta by Othmar Klose (13 October 1889 – 24 January 1970) and Rudolf Lukesch. The song Hör' mein Lied, Violetta was often covered, including by Peter Alexander and was itself based on Giuseppe Verdi's La traviata

[PinkDalek]

From Wikipedia

Ahem "URL link to the originating site" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Locke#Success

[GoSeigen]

Classical and traditional music has long been raided for themes in popular songs.

Elvis Presley's "It's now or never" from " O Sole Mio " and "Wooden Heart" from Germany's traditional "Mussi Denn" .

Chopin's Fantasy Impromtu provides "I'm always chasing rainbows".

IIRC Serge Gainsbourg used to do the same thing.


GS

[UncleEbenezer]

Anyone who hasn't seen it already, Kit and the Widow on some rather specific plagiarism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz1IDmmcetQ .

[didds]

cheers in particular to PD and Clariman

no idea how I missed that!

didds

[GrahamPlatt]

Ana Vidovic - Asturias - https://youtu.be/inBKFMB-yPg

Doors - Spanish Caravan - https://youtu.be/6zrwCjjUqs0

[Dod101]

Ana Vidovic - Asturias - https://youtu.be/inBKFMB-yPg

Doors - Spanish Caravan - https://youtu.be/6zrwCjjUqs0

I find it disconcerting that suddenly three years later we get an addition to a long ‘dead’ thread.

Dod

[bungeejumper]

Anyone who hasn't seen it already, Kit and the Widow on some rather specific plagiarism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz1IDmmcetQ .

Superb, thanks.

Ob contribution: The Warsaw Concerto, used in the 1941 film Dangerous Moonlight, which was somewhat shamelessly lifted from Rachmaninov's second piano concerto. RKO had originally planned to use the genuine article, but Rach's publishers wouldn't allow it, so they hired somebody to clone it. Oh well, I suppose, there was a war on, so needs must?

It did the trick, though, and raised British and American awareness of Poland's plight no end.

BJ

[csearle]

Ana Vidovic - Asturias - https://youtu.be/inBKFMB-yPg

Doors - Spanish Caravan - https://youtu.be/6zrwCjjUqs0

I find it disconcerting that suddenly three years later we get an addition to a long ‘dead’ thread.

Dod

So do I. I was reading the thread, unaware that it was ancient, only to find our mate PinkDalek piping up. A shiver went down my spine, a voice from jenseits. C.

[GrahamPlatt]

You can blame the enhanced Google search we now have on the site.
I happened upon the rendition of Asturias and was strongly reminded of Spanish Caravan.
In light of recent court cases over plagiarism in music I used the word in searching here.
I was surprised to find nothing more recent, and this thread seemed the most apposite place to post.
I make no apology.

[Dod101]

You can blame the enhanced Google search we now have on the site.
I happened upon the rendition of Asturias and was strongly reminded of Spanish Caravan.
In light of recent court cases over plagiarism in music I used the word in searching here.
I was surprised to find nothing more recent, but the thread itself seemed the most apposite place to post.
I make no apology.

No need even to think of apologising. No one suggested that you should. It is still disconcerting though.

Dod

[Clitheroekid]

(circa 02:20 onwards for a bit at leats in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqWE-_3roCo)

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[Clitheroekid]

Oops! I'd not realised that the original post was from 2019.

I'd never heard of the Joseph Locke song, but having listened to it there's one particular phrase that I recognised.

It's probably easiest to make the comparison if you have the two YT videos open so that you can instantly switch between them.

The first is this extract from the sublimely beautiful prelude from LT - https://youtu.be/L0wrWVbi4Jk?t=110 - it runs from about 1:50 to 2:00

The second is this extract from Hear My Song - https://youtu.be/MOQP3bG0qzE?t=65 - which runs from 1:06 to 1:15.

There's definitely a strong resemblance, but as others have commented, it's quite common for popular music composers to nick tunes from the classics, as they are untroubled by pesky issues like copyright!