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Girls in Scouting

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Did you know that girls are allowed to be part of Scouting in the UK (not including girl guides)

Poll ended at January 21st, 2020, 11:37 am

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Girls in Scouting

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Postby UncleIan » January 14th, 2020, 11:37 am

I'm just idly wondering how far changes to the scout association have got into the consciousness of people generally. So I'd like to know if you knew (before reading this post!) whether girls can be part of all sections (Beavers, Cubs, Scouts etc) in the UK Scout Association. Not talking about girlguiding, who, self evidently have allowed girls in for quite some time!

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby dionaeamuscipula » January 14th, 2020, 11:46 am

In the scout troop DMJr was part of until recently, there was a concern that there were *too many* girls, and that there was a danger that boys would see it as a girl thing and drop away.

Cubs still mainly boys. Beavers have fallen away - the wonderful Colony Leader was, sadly, killed in a RTA and they have never really recovered.

Brownies and Guides still girl only, they do seem to be a bit more crafty/arty than Scouts/Cubs. DMJrJr and DMJrJrJr have shown zero interest in looking at Cubs/Scouts as a route.

Meanwhile in America the Girl Scouts are reaching for their lawyers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... scouts-mad

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby kempiejon » January 14th, 2020, 11:47 am

Boys can't be girl guides though. The guides were asked and they said no to boys. 'Cept those who Identify as girls of course.

It's not Beavers but Rainbows

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby Loup321 » January 14th, 2020, 12:51 pm

I thought the Scouts started allowing girls about 25-30 years ago, while I was in school, but after I moved from the school where I had friends that were Cubs (there was no local Scout group in my new area). I've just Googled it, and it was allowed in 1991, and then compulsory for all groups in 2007. So I guess that I know because it was relevant to my life when it happened, although how I would have heard about it apart from by watching Newsround, I have no idea.

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby quelquod » January 14th, 2020, 4:56 pm

I used to be a scoutmaster and this was my main reason for dropping out. Naturally enough things evolve and in my time in scouting there were lots of changes in activities but the introduction of girls into a hitherto boys-only environment was a major change. For the poorer IMV but of course opinions vary. It meant different needs for leadership and pretty well proscribed some of the more ‘energetic’ activities and the differences it brought to camping requirements were quite dramatic. Too big a change for me alas as I couldn’t reconcile it with what I’d grown up through in some 30-odd years as a leader.

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby Wizard » January 14th, 2020, 5:29 pm

My son is in Explorers now (14+ age group, one above Scouts) and is also a Young Leader in Scouts (helpfully this also counts towards the volunteering requirement for Duke of Edinburgh silver, as Scouts and D of E seem to have aligned themselves well). He had girls in his Cubs and Scouts. Always a small minority with most being boys and I do not perceive the activities were at all limited by there being girls present.

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby anon155742 » January 14th, 2020, 5:42 pm

It pretty much killed off the organisation here. The boys stopped wanting to go.

There are the new Scout groups that seem successful but insist on the religious element...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43742046

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby UncleIan » January 14th, 2020, 5:45 pm

kempiejon wrote:Boys can't be girl guides though. The guides were asked and they said no to boys. 'Cept those who Identify as girls of course.

It's not Beavers but Rainbows


Beavers is the aged 6-8 section for Scouts.
Rainbows is most junior section in Girlguiding (ages I'm not sure but maybe 5-7, roughly)

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Re: Girls in Scouting

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Postby kempiejon » January 14th, 2020, 6:41 pm

UncleIan wrote:Beavers is the aged 6-8 section for Scouts.
Rainbows is most junior section in Girlguiding (ages I'm not sure but maybe 5-7, roughly)


Thank you very much, I was sure Beavers were little brownies and there wasn't anything younger than cubs. As they say you learn something everyday.


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