I saw a staff photograph of a lady, entitled, "Elizabeth Baker, Esq."
Can a lady be an Esq?"
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Can a lady be an Esq?"
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Re: Can a lady be an Esq?"
Historically it was only used for men in the UK. However, sometimes it is used with the names of male and female lawyers in the US .
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Re: Can a lady be an Esq?"
Hi NMNH,
I understand that in the US some female attorneys are addressed as Esquire:
https://www.wikihow.com/Address-a-Female-Attorney
Gostevie
I understand that in the US some female attorneys are addressed as Esquire:
https://www.wikihow.com/Address-a-Female-Attorney
Gostevie
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Re: Can a lady be an Esq?"
NomoneyNohoney wrote:I saw a staff photograph of a lady, entitled, "Elizabeth Baker, Esq."
Can a lady be an Esq?"
I think the roots go back to "esquier" which is old French for shield bearer (no doubt it goes back further too as old French has roots in Latin). Typically shield bearers were young men en route to becoming knights. I'm not sure whther any ladies would have been so employed, but probably unlikely, but shield bearers were considered "defenders of the law" (since battles were the outcome of action against those wishing to go against the wishes of the English/British monarch).
Esquire is, to my knowledge, still a male only designation in the UK, but the "shield bearer/defender of the law" meaning transferred across the pond where the symbol of the shield has come to be associated with the law. Police badges are typically "shield" in design, for instance.
Trainee lawyers work towards earning their "shield", and on qualifying are "allowed" to have the designation Esq.
So, is she American? Is she a lawyer?
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Re: Can a lady be an Esq?"
dealtn wrote:NomoneyNohoney wrote:I saw a staff photograph of a lady, entitled, "Elizabeth Baker, Esq."
Can a lady be an Esq?"
...So, is she American? Is she a lawyer?
If she's this 'Elizabeth Baker, Esq.' then the answer is 'Yes' to both questions.
https://www.pcrm.org/about-us/staff/elizabeth-bakerMs. Baker is a member of the California Bar Association ... graduated cum laude from California Western School of Law
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Re: Can a lady be an Esq?"
First words under the photograph, "Elizabeth Baker, Esq., is the Pharmaceutical Policy Program Director..."
Yup, that's her. Thanks for the illumination folks...
Yup, that's her. Thanks for the illumination folks...
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