RNLI

[Gerry557]

Many were formed by fishing villages as the only means to aid those that got into difficulty.

I think there was an attempt to do a national service in the early days of the admiralty.

They do receive some government support. I remember Osborne doing something in a budget and giving the RNLI and some service charities a handout or donation but you are correct it's not fully funded.

Landlubbers go on holiday to the coast or go on ferry's etc so no reason why they won't donate. In fact one of the busiest RNLI stations is in London. Past history has the RAF operating boats to rescue downed pilots. They also had the yellow search and rescue helicopters. Again their primary role was rescuing downed aircrew but did secondary a role for civilians. Although the latter was 95%+. With government cuts both these have disappeared. The coastguard now do the helicopter side of things.

I have acted as a casualty and been practiced rescued several times. The closest I've come to real need is getting stuck and caught out in a force 9, fortunately we managed to get ourselves to the relative calm of Poole Harbour. I also aided an injured walker and a cyclist who were both airlifted to safety.

I'm happy to donate knowing that one day they might be there for me or someone. I know.

[Laughton]

When 97% of the frontline RNLI lifesavers are volunteers (quote from its website) does the charity really need to pay its CEO £160,000 per year?

I'm afraid it's a bugbear of mine - charity CEOs paid, what I consider to be, extorionate amounts of money.

Presumably the trustees believe that's what's needed to retain someone of a suitable calibre, and that the current one is worth it.

How much do you think would be appropriate for someone that runs an outfit that has annual income & expenditure of £230 million, assets of three quarters of a billion £, 2400 employees and 200,000 volunteers?

I'm sorry but I don't know the answer (to how much I think they need to pay). But, £160,000 is close to what The Prime Minister earns (no claims from me as to whether he warrants that or not).

I suppose my thought is that charities in general might be able to attract people of the right calibre who have, perhaps retired from high powered jobs or at least jobs that give them the right qualifications to do the job for a few years. A bit of "giving back" that many such people might think that they want to do.

But that's probably me being idealistic.

[kempiejon]

I previously worked in the not for profit sector as a low level functional member of staff, my colleagues and I reckoned we were underpaid and could probably have taken our skills to the highest bidder out there but might have to work a bit harder and would have more stresses. Higher up the food chain than me it was populated by a few towards the end of their career having made good in other sectors in the preceding years. I know an HR specialist in the charity sector who says they struggle to get staff and they do bench mark the board and senior execs to the market place otherwise they wouldn't be able to recruit.

The link below shows some charity CEO salaries and they seem to slide between £140k - £200k with some outliers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEO_compe ... ed_Kingdom

[mc2fool]

Presumably the trustees believe that's what's needed to retain someone of a suitable calibre, and that the current one is worth it.

How much do you think would be appropriate for someone that runs an outfit that has annual income & expenditure of £230 million, assets of three quarters of a billion £, 2400 employees and 200,000 volunteers?

I'm sorry but I don't know the answer (to how much I think they need to pay). But, £160,000 is close to what The Prime Minister earns (no claims from me as to whether he warrants that or not).

I suppose my thought is that charities in general might be able to attract people of the right calibre who have, perhaps retired from high powered jobs or at least jobs that give them the right qualifications to do the job for a few years. A bit of "giving back" that many such people might think that they want to do.

But that's probably me being idealistic.

I don't know the answer either, but it does seem to me that using the PM's salary as a reference, as folks often seem to like to do in this kind of discussion, is, well .... let's put it this way: the PM runs an outfit that has income of just over £1 trillion and expenditure of a bit more, assets of some £2.3 trillion and liabilities to match, and some 5.9 million employees. And that's just counting the govt as his "outfit", if you were to count the country as it instead...

So, by the PM's salary measure and going just on the income figures, should the CEO of RNLI be paid a four thousandth of the PM's salary -- or the PM be paid 4,000 times more?

(Rhetorical question/answers on a postcard to....)

[Dod101]

Presumably the trustees believe that's what's needed to retain someone of a suitable calibre, and that the current one is worth it.

How much do you think would be appropriate for someone that runs an outfit that has annual income & expenditure of £230 million, assets of three quarters of a billion £, 2400 employees and 200,000 volunteers?

I'm sorry but I don't know the answer (to how much I think they need to pay). But, £160,000 is close to what The Prime Minister earns (no claims from me as to whether he warrants that or not).

I suppose my thought is that charities in general might be able to attract people of the right calibre who have, perhaps retired from high powered jobs or at least jobs that give them the right qualifications to do the job for a few years. A bit of "giving back" that many such people might think that they want to do.

But that's probably me being idealistic.

For all I know that may be what the current CEO is doing. The salary does not look high to me when you consider the potential for getting it wrong. PMs and MPs for that matter are well underpaid which is why we get the quality we get.

Dod

[Tedx]

So I was sitting there last night and I said to the missus 'i can hear 'Marys Boy Child' by Boney M.

Turns out several appliances were touring around the county

And I guess this is one way they raise cash

https://youtu.be/0tbiSFYydPU?si=tipOF56tjOOL9J4Z

Anyway, the litte kids were going out of their minds when they seen it.

Great stuff

[Dod101]

So I was sitting there last night and I said to the missus 'i can hear 'Marys Boy Child' by Boney M.

Turns out several appliances were touring around the county

And I guess this is one way they raise cash

https://youtu.be/0tbiSFYydPU?si=tipOF56tjOOL9J4Z

Anyway, the litte kids were going out of their minds when they seen it.

Great stuff

I thought you were on topic and it was the RNLI that you were writing about.

Dod

[Tedx]

When have ever been on topic Dodster?