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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby Dod101 » June 11th, 2021, 1:43 pm

Fundamentally do we want to live on this planet or not is my somewhat unreconstructed attitude. Of course we should be reducing waste in all its forms but it seems to me that if we are not using energy one way we will in another. Waste to landfill, pollution and CO2 emissions seem to me to be the priorities but in the end most of us would prefer to live on this planet than the alternative and that has a cost.

I appreciate that companies like Unilever and Diageo have got to be seen to be doing their bit and good for them.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby scrumpyjack » June 11th, 2021, 4:21 pm

Of course Tetrapak did this decades ago for fruit juice and milk. It is amazing that it has taken this long to do the same thing for other products!
It was a brilliant idea and made the Rausing family billions.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby csearle » June 12th, 2021, 7:12 am

Just a tangential point. This week I swapped over to using dehydrated washing detergent¹. A stack of 60 12cm x 10cm "paper" squares in a paper envelope (which itself degrades to dust in 3 months underground). One square per washload. It dissolves in seconds. Maybe Unilever could go in this direction too.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby flyer61 » June 12th, 2021, 8:21 am

It helps to explains why Unilever, Diageo and PepsiCo remain in my top ten core holdings for life portfolio. They have the wit and resources to change when required.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby TheMotorcycleBoy » June 12th, 2021, 12:01 pm

I'm not stating this is a negative way, but I do notice that their recent RNSs report a high number of stock purchases. Since their share price is currently low compared to that of many in the FTSE350, I imagine that if they want to do a buyback campaign, then this is certainly a good time to do so. I assume that it may also imply that ULVR are suitably bullish about their cash situation.

However, what I wondered is are buybacks are typically ULVR phenomenon, and have participated in them off and on for years, or is this a recent activity for them?

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby ADrunkenMarcus » June 12th, 2021, 12:06 pm

ULVR certainly did buybacks in 2017, 2018 and 2019 as well as 2021.

I think 2018 was due to the spreads exit.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby scrumpyjack » June 12th, 2021, 1:01 pm

The current share buyback activity is explained on Unilevers website

https://www.unilever.com/investor-relat ... programme/

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby Dod101 » June 12th, 2021, 3:08 pm

The trouble with these very long threads is that they become totally disjointed.
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Share buybacks by Unilever are I assume totally unrelated to their attempt to reduce the use of plastic.

On that subject, I wonder why the tetrapak technology did not translate or was not translated anyway to other products as well as fruit juices and milk?

As far as share buybacks are concerned, as has been pointed out this was announced back in April and seems to be simply a part of the usual for Unilever.

I am very happy with both announcements I must say.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby monabri » June 12th, 2021, 4:05 pm

Cost might be a factor.

https://wap.business-standard.com/artic ... 010_1.html

"Visakha supplies 40,000 litres of milk a day in tetra packs, of which 25,000 litres is sold under the Amul brand and about 15,000 litres under the Visakha brand," he said, adding the main markets for the tetra packed milk were East, West Godavari districts and Hyderabd."

Speaking with Business Standard, D Venkata Rao, managing director of Visakha Dairy, said though tetra packing would be costlier, the company had decided to use it in order to increase the milk sales. According to him, polythene packing costs around 60 paise per litre, compared with the tetra packing which would cost about Rs 5.40 per litre. "

(540 Indian Rupee versus 60).


All is not perfect in "Tetraland (74% of the used packs sent to landfill and the pack is made from virgin materials) . Perhaps the new packaging will address these issues?

https://drinkpathwater.com/blogs/news/1 ... tled-water

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby Dod101 » June 12th, 2021, 4:35 pm

monabri wrote:Cost might be a factor.

https://wap.business-standard.com/artic ... 010_1.html

"Visakha supplies 40,000 litres of milk a day in tetra packs, of which 25,000 litres is sold under the Amul brand and about 15,000 litres under the Visakha brand," he said, adding the main markets for the tetra packed milk were East, West Godavari districts and Hyderabd."

Speaking with Business Standard, D Venkata Rao, managing director of Visakha Dairy, said though tetra packing would be costlier, the company had decided to use it in order to increase the milk sales. According to him, polythene packing costs around 60 paise per litre, compared with the tetra packing which would cost about Rs 5.40 per litre. "

(540 Indian Rupee versus 60).


All is not perfect in "Tetraland (74% of the used packs sent to landfill and the pack is made from virgin materials) . Perhaps the new packaging will address these issues?

https://drinkpathwater.com/blogs/news/1 ... tled-water


Well the announcement tells us that the new bottle is designed to be recycled in the paper waste stream, which sounds to be as good as it gets.
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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby monabri » June 12th, 2021, 5:59 pm

ULVR really have to step up the game!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/112 ... -unilever/

"It is estimated that some 70,000 metric tons of mismanaged plastic waste, i.e burnt or dumped, is created by Unilever every year across these six developing nations. This is enough plastic waste to cover more than 11 football pitches a day."

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby Dod101 » June 12th, 2021, 6:48 pm

monabri wrote:ULVR really have to step up the game!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/112 ... -unilever/

"It is estimated that some 70,000 metric tons of mismanaged plastic waste, i.e burnt or dumped, is created by Unilever every year across these six developing nations. This is enough plastic waste to cover more than 11 football pitches a day."


For Heaven's sake, I expect that sort of comment could be made of most multi nationals. It gets us nowhere.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby Itsallaguess » June 12th, 2021, 6:51 pm

Dod101 wrote:
monabri wrote:
ULVR really have to step up the game!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/112 ... -unilever/

"It is estimated that some 70,000 metric tons of mismanaged plastic waste, i.e burnt or dumped, is created by Unilever every year across these six developing nations. This is enough plastic waste to cover more than 11 football pitches a day."


For Heaven's sake, I expect that sort of comment could be made of most multi nationals. It gets us nowhere.


As Goldie Lookin' Chain very nearly said -

"Plastic don't kill planets - people do..."

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby XFool » June 13th, 2021, 2:57 pm

Itsallaguess wrote:
Dod101 wrote:
monabri wrote:"It is estimated that some 70,000 metric tons of mismanaged plastic waste, i.e burnt or dumped, is created by Unilever every year across these six developing nations. This is enough plastic waste to cover more than 11 football pitches a day."

For Heaven's sake, I expect that sort of comment could be made of most multi nationals. It gets us nowhere.

As Goldie Lookin' Chain very nearly said -

"Plastic don't kill planets - people do..."

"Goldie Lookin' Chain"? Had to look that one up! :)

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby TheMotorcycleBoy » June 13th, 2021, 4:01 pm

XFool wrote:
Itsallaguess wrote:
Dod101 wrote:For Heaven's sake, I expect that sort of comment could be made of most multi nationals. It gets us nowhere.

As Goldie Lookin' Chain very nearly said -

"Plastic don't kill planets - people do..."

"Goldie Lookin' Chain"? Had to look that one up! :)

Looks like Ali G meets the Beastie Boys meets some blokes from the South West.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby stockton » June 13th, 2021, 7:28 pm

scrumpyjack wrote:Of course Tetrapak did this decades ago for fruit juice and milk. It is amazing that it has taken this long to do the same thing for other products!
It was a brilliant idea and made the Rausing family billions.

Funny that. I always thought that recycling was invented to deal with the problems caused by the aluminium in Tetrapaks.

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby monabri » June 13th, 2021, 7:34 pm

stockton wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:Of course Tetrapak did this decades ago for fruit juice and milk. It is amazing that it has taken this long to do the same thing for other products!
It was a brilliant idea and made the Rausing family billions.

Funny that. I always thought that recycling was invented to deal with the problems caused by the aluminium in Tetrapaks.


Yep, see the link I posted above previously..virgin material required and a lot of the Tetrapak waste goes to landfill.

https://drinkpathwater.com/blogs/news/1 ... tled-water

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby Steveam » July 22nd, 2021, 8:16 am

This caught my eye:

“ Pensions
Pension assets net of liabilities were in surplus of €1.9 billion at the end of June 2021 versus €0.3 billion as at 31 December 2020. The increase was driven by positive investment returns on pension assets, and lower liabilities as interest rates increased.”

Best wishes,

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Re: Unilever (ULVR)

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Postby monabri » July 22nd, 2021, 11:57 am

Why the heck are they getting involved in Israeli Palestinian politics ( Ben & Jerry's ice cream )?


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