kiloran wrote:I;m not sure if this will be included in the Belgian statistics
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59516896
Shouldn't they be wearing facemasks?
--kiloran
Well, I'm not going to try and make them. How about you?
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kiloran wrote:I;m not sure if this will be included in the Belgian statistics
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59516896
Shouldn't they be wearing facemasks?
--kiloran
XFool wrote:Well, I'm not going to try and make them. How about you?
bungeejumper wrote:XFool wrote:Well, I'm not going to try and make them. How about you?
Not me either. But I think it's good that the zoo's hippothesis has been put to the test.
swill453 wrote:New change in regulations - "Travellers heading to the UK will now have to have a Covid test before their departure" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59534685
What exactly happens if you test positive before your flight? You can't get on the plane, and your accommodation certainly doesn't want you any more. What are your options?
Lootman wrote:Things still aren't that bad.
Julian wrote: right now I see some sections of the mainstream media running stories with a slant that leans the other way, i.e. “we’re all doomed”,
swill453 wrote:New change in regulations - "Travellers heading to the UK will now have to have a Covid test before their departure" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59534685
What exactly happens if you test positive before your flight? You can't get on the plane, and your accommodation certainly doesn't want you any more. What are your options?
Scott.
SteMiS wrote:swill453 wrote:New change in regulations - "Travellers heading to the UK will now have to have a Covid test before their departure" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59534685
What exactly happens if you test positive before your flight? You can't get on the plane, and your accommodation certainly doesn't want you any more. What are your options?
Scott.
Bearing in mind that the covid test can be lateral flow, I don't understand how they can police that the test belongs to the person preventing it, when it was taken or that it was even taken? Surely some people, if they test positive (bearing in mind the financial consequences of missing their flight, quarantining in a foreign country, booking a new flight etc etc) are just going to fake a negative test? Seems a pretty tokenistic move by the government...
SteMiS wrote:swill453 wrote:New change in regulations - "Travellers heading to the UK will now have to have a Covid test before their departure" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59534685
What exactly happens if you test positive before your flight? You can't get on the plane, and your accommodation certainly doesn't want you any more. What are your options?
Bearing in mind that the covid test can be lateral flow, I don't understand how they can police that the test belongs to the person preventing it, when it was taken or that it was even taken? Surely some people, if they test positive (bearing in mind the financial consequences of missing their flight, quarantining in a foreign country, booking a new flight etc etc) are just going to fake a negative test? Seems a pretty tokenistic move by the government...
Julian wrote:SteMiS wrote:swill453 wrote:New change in regulations - "Travellers heading to the UK will now have to have a Covid test before their departure" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59534685
What exactly happens if you test positive before your flight? You can't get on the plane, and your accommodation certainly doesn't want you any more. What are your options?
Scott.
Bearing in mind that the covid test can be lateral flow, I don't understand how they can police that the test belongs to the person preventing it, when it was taken or that it was even taken? Surely some people, if they test positive (bearing in mind the financial consequences of missing their flight, quarantining in a foreign country, booking a new flight etc etc) are just going to fake a negative test? Seems a pretty tokenistic move by the government...
Are all lateral flow tests equal? Many of us are probably familiar with the pack-of-7 free(*) tests that one can order from the NHS or get from chemists for at-home testing but is there also the concept of a not-self-administered lateral flow test where the testing is done at some paid-for testing centre and the results confirmed by a signed form as opposed to the scan your QR code and upload the results method used by the free NHS tests? If a lateral flow test had to be test-centre administered that might finesse your very justifiable concern.
I haven't seen positive confirmation that lateral flow antigen tests work with Omicron. Is this policy implicit confirmation that they do I wonder. If so that is very good news that I wish would be explicitly reported in the mainstream media. [ John (redsturgeon) or anyone else - do you happen to know the latest on that? ]
- Julian
(*) Free for now. I think I did read a few rumours that this might get changed at some point in the not too far distant future.
SteMiS wrote:Julian wrote:SteMiS wrote:Bearing in mind that the covid test can be lateral flow, I don't understand how they can police that the test belongs to the person preventing it, when it was taken or that it was even taken? Surely some people, if they test positive (bearing in mind the financial consequences of missing their flight, quarantining in a foreign country, booking a new flight etc etc) are just going to fake a negative test? Seems a pretty tokenistic move by the government...
Are all lateral flow tests equal? Many of us are probably familiar with the pack-of-7 free(*) tests that one can order from the NHS or get from chemists for at-home testing but is there also the concept of a not-self-administered lateral flow test where the testing is done at some paid-for testing centre and the results confirmed by a signed form as opposed to the scan your QR code and upload the results method used by the free NHS tests? If a lateral flow test had to be test-centre administered that might finesse your very justifiable concern.
I haven't seen positive confirmation that lateral flow antigen tests work with Omicron. Is this policy implicit confirmation that they do I wonder. If so that is very good news that I wish would be explicitly reported in the mainstream media. [ John (redsturgeon) or anyone else - do you happen to know the latest on that? ]
- Julian
(*) Free for now. I think I did read a few rumours that this might get changed at some point in the not too far distant future.
It's a good question but (as far as I am aware) all the government says is
In light of this emerging evidence and the changing global picture with regards to the spread of Omicron, from 4am on Tuesday, anyone wishing to travel to the UK from countries and territories not on the red list must also show proof of a negative PCR or lateral flow (LFD) pre-departure test, taken no earlier than 48 hours before departure. This applies to vaccinated passengers and children aged 12 and above.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/test ... o-red-list
Bearing in mind that these requirements come into force in just 38 hours, relating to flyers already abroad preparing to return home, it's probably going to be hard enough to get hold of a LF test, let alone find an 'authorised' (by who?) lab, in whatever country you happen to be in, that will do it. If there is some sort of specification of the LF test, how are travellers and indeed airlines supposed to know of them if there is nothing even in the government release?
SteMiS wrote:... (as far as I am aware) all the government says is
In light of this emerging evidence and the changing global picture with regards to the spread of Omicron, from 4am on Tuesday, anyone wishing to travel to the UK from countries and territories not on the red list must also show proof of a negative PCR or lateral flow (LFD) pre-departure test, taken no earlier than 48 hours before departure. This applies to vaccinated passengers and children aged 12 and above.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/test ... o-red-list
Bearing in mind that these requirements come into force in just 38 hours, relating to flyers already abroad preparing to return home, it's probably going to be hard enough to get hold of a LF test, let alone find an 'authorised' (by who?) lab, in whatever country you happen to be in, that will do it. If there is some sort of specification of the LF test, how are travellers and indeed airlines supposed to know of them if there is nothing even in the government release?
SteMiS wrote:Bearing in mind that these requirements come into force in just 38 hours, relating to flyers already abroad preparing to return home, it's probably going to be hard enough to get hold of a LF test, let alone find an 'authorised' (by who?) lab, in whatever country you happen to be in, that will do it. If there is some sort of specification of the LF test, how are travellers and indeed airlines supposed to know of them if there is nothing even in the government release?
Julian wrote:SteMiS wrote:swill453 wrote:New change in regulations - "Travellers heading to the UK will now have to have a Covid test before their departure" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59534685
What exactly happens if you test positive before your flight? You can't get on the plane, and your accommodation certainly doesn't want you any more. What are your options?
Scott.
Bearing in mind that the covid test can be lateral flow, I don't understand how they can police that the test belongs to the person preventing it, when it was taken or that it was even taken? Surely some people, if they test positive (bearing in mind the financial consequences of missing their flight, quarantining in a foreign country, booking a new flight etc etc) are just going to fake a negative test? Seems a pretty tokenistic move by the government...
Are all lateral flow tests equal? Many of us are probably familiar with the pack-of-7 free(*) tests that one can order from the NHS or get from chemists for at-home testing but is there also the concept of a not-self-administered lateral flow test where the testing is done at some paid-for testing centre and the results confirmed by a signed form as opposed to the scan your QR code and upload the results method used by the free NHS tests? If a lateral flow test had to be test-centre administered that might finesse your very justifiable concern.
I haven't seen positive confirmation that lateral flow antigen tests work with Omicron. Is this policy implicit confirmation that they do I wonder. If so that is very good news that I wish would be explicitly reported in the mainstream media. [ John (redsturgeon) or anyone else - do you happen to know the latest on that? ]
- Julian
(*) Free for now. I think I did read a few rumours that this might get changed at some point in the not too far distant future.
redsturgeon wrote:
We do lateral flow tests administered by a registered health care professional and are UKAS accredited to do that. The result is then certified by us as we get photo ID proof of the person we are testing.
It is pretty much certain that the LFT will pick up the Omicron variant there has never been much doubt of that. The LTF tests of course cannot differentiate variants though.
John
Sorcery wrote:redsturgeon wrote:
We do lateral flow tests administered by a registered health care professional and are UKAS accredited to do that. The result is then certified by us as we get photo ID proof of the person we are testing.
It is pretty much certain that the LFT will pick up the Omicron variant there has never been much doubt of that. The LTF tests of course cannot differentiate variants though.
John
LFT and LTF tests are 2 different things now? I have so far been assuming one or the other was a typo for the other. That's bad Mnenomics imv,
Lootman wrote:In fact the signs so far are that Omicron might almost be the perfect Covid variant, i.e. it is highly infectious but relatively harmless...So bring it on, Omicron.XFool wrote:Act now against Omicron to stop new Covid wave, UK ministers warned
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