The Lemon Fool

U962 wrote:Tell that to the relatives of the BBC radio presenter Lisa Shaw, age 44 and in good health took the vax and dead within a week. Coroner rules it was "complication following the vax"
Or you might tell it to the other relatives of the 1182 post AZ vax deaths, 684 post Pfzier deaths and for Moderna the number is 29: data as of 05/01/2022.
But not as epic as the 52year old Canadian doctor who was on twitter blasting off at the Anti-this-vax people saying he would not cry at their funeral - yup you can just guess the rest: he took the vax booster and he too was dead in 2 weeks.

Anyway my local village there has been a change of 'heart'
Following someone previously healthy who has mysteriously now developed heart problems, no one now mentions the vax to me (I'm not touching it with a bargepole). more significantly I've received an apology from one of the more strident "you must have the vax" type individuals who now says that it is a personal decision for the person concerned whether they have the vax or not.

One of my best techniques for getting rid of the strident pro-vaxers was to say OK so if its totally safe lets agree that if I get a bad reaction to the vax you pay me £1m - what's the problem with that, you say is totally safe so there's no possibility of you having to pay........
(They don't know I've already had one instant immediate bad reaction to a past vax)

U962 wrote:Tell that to the relatives of the BBC radio presenter Lisa Shaw, age 44 and in good health took the vax and dead within a week. Coroner rules it was "complication following the vax"
Or you might tell it to the other relatives of the 1182 post AZ vax deaths, 684 post Pfzier deaths and for Moderna the number is 29: data as of 05/01/2022.
But not as epic as the 52year old Canadian doctor who was on twitter blasting off at the Anti-this-vax people saying he would not cry at their funeral - yup you can just guess the rest: he took the vax booster and he too was dead in 2 weeks.

Anyway my local village there has been a change of 'heart'
Following someone previously healthy who has mysteriously now developed heart problems, no one now mentions the vax to me (I'm not touching it with a bargepole). more significantly I've received an apology from one of the more strident "you must have the vax" type individuals who now says that it is a personal decision for the person concerned whether they have the vax or not.

One of my best techniques for getting rid of the strident pro-vaxers was to say OK so if its totally safe lets agree that if I get a bad reaction to the vax you pay me £1m - what's the problem with that, you say is totally safe so there's no possibility of you having to pay........
(They don't know I've already had one instant immediate bad reaction to a past vax)

RockRabbit wrote:To be consistent, you should then refuse all medical treatment/medicine/vax, as medical treatment/medicine/vax nearly always carries some risk.

Julian wrote:

U962 wrote:Care to provide a link to the source(s) of that data so that we can see the criteria for inclusion in the death numbers, see what steps were taken to control for any confounding factors such as pre-existing conditions, or indeed see if that data is actually real or simply made up?

U962 wrote:
One of my best techniques for getting rid of the strident pro-vaxers was to say OK so if its totally safe lets agree that if I get a bad reaction to the vax you pay me £1m - what's the problem with that, you say is totally safe so there's no possibility of you having to pay........
(They don't know I've already had one instant immediate bad reaction to a past vax)

pje16 wrote:

Julian wrote:

U962 wrote:Care to provide a link to the source(s) of that data so that we can see the criteria for inclusion in the death numbers, see what steps were taken to control for any confounding factors such as pre-existing conditions, or indeed see if that data is actually real or simply made up?

I'm not spending hours on this it is common knowledge that deaths as a result of being vaxxed are very low

U962 wrote:...

Julian wrote:Care to provide a link to the source(s) of that data so that we can see the criteria for inclusion in the death numbers, see what steps were taken to control for any confounding factors such as pre-existing conditions, or indeed see if that data is actually real or simply made up?

monabri wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/novak-djokovic-owns-majority-stake-of-covid-cure-company-12520442

"Novak Djokovic owns majority stake of COVID cure company
It has emerged the Serbian tennis player holds a majority stake in a Danish biotech firm working to develop a treatment for coronavirus."

Hallucigenia wrote:In his book Serve to Win, Djokovic described how in 2010 he met with a nutritionist who asked him to hold a piece of bread in his left hand while he pressed down on his right arm. Djokovic claims he was much weaker while holding the bread, and cited this as evidence of gluten intolerance.
And during an Instagram live, he claimed that positive thought could "cleanse" polluted water, adding that "scientists have proven that molecules in water react to our emotions." [/i]

pje16 wrote:

Hallucigenia wrote:In his book Serve to Win, Djokovic described how in 2010 he met with a nutritionist who asked him to hold a piece of bread in his left hand while he pressed down on his right arm. Djokovic claims he was much weaker while holding the bread, and cited this as evidence of gluten intolerance.
And during an Instagram live, he claimed that positive thought could "cleanse" polluted water, adding that "scientists have proven that molecules in water react to our emotions." [/i]

REALLY
the beliefs of some humans never ceases to amaze me