moorfield wrote:Think it might installed on our burner phone. Not sure, never pay much attention to that one.
Well that's not a very responsible attitude to the NHS infection monitoring app.
Delete it immediately!!
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moorfield wrote:Think it might installed on our burner phone. Not sure, never pay much attention to that one.
redsturgeon wrote:Don't worry if you get pinged, just do as the PM and chancellor are doing and start an NHS trial where you just test yourself each morning instead...who knew it could be so simple.
chas49 wrote:No. If you're contacted by T&T and told to isolate, you are required by law to comply.
Lootman wrote:redsturgeon wrote:Don't worry if you get pinged, just do as the PM and chancellor are doing and start an NHS trial where you just test yourself each morning instead...who knew it could be so simple.
A thought experiment for you. Suppose you have to be locked up in a cell with a stranger for the next 24 hours. However you are given a choice:
1) Someone who has been pinged but is getting tested and monitored daily.
2) A stranger about whom you know nothing.
Which would you choose, and why?
UncleEbenezer wrote:chas49 wrote:No. If you're contacted by T&T and told to isolate, you are required by law to comply.
Does anyone have a clue how you're supposed to tell a cold call from T&T from a cold call by anyone else, including someone impersonating them?
redsturgeon wrote:Lootman wrote:redsturgeon wrote:Don't worry if you get pinged, just do as the PM and chancellor are doing and start an NHS trial where you just test yourself each morning instead...who knew it could be so simple.
A thought experiment for you. Suppose you have to be locked up in a cell with a stranger for the next 24 hours. However you are given a choice:
1) Someone who has been pinged but is getting tested and monitored daily.
2) A stranger about whom you know nothing.
Which would you choose, and why?
I think you are confused as to my views on this matter. I'd much rather everyone that was pinged by test and trace just tested daily. Mrs RS is dealing with covid positive patients most days and she takes a daily test. I think it is ridiculous that Boris and Rishi are now isolating.
ReformedCharacter wrote:UncleEbenezer wrote:chas49 wrote:No. If you're contacted by T&T and told to isolate, you are required by law to comply.
Does anyone have a clue how you're supposed to tell a cold call from T&T from a cold call by anyone else, including someone impersonating them?
Only by asking them some information that T&T should have but someone impersonating them would probably not have, such as (perhaps) your NHS number.
RC
If you have tested positive for coronavirus, you will either receive a call, text, or email from NHS Test and Trace with instructions on how to share details of people you have been in close recent contact with.
If you’ve been in contact with someone who has tested positive, you will be contacted in the same ways and asked about symptoms.
You will only ever be called from the number 0300 013 5000, or you will be texted from “NHS”.
However, as some have pointed out on Twitter, it is relatively easy for scammers to fake numbers.
Because of this, if you do not feel comfortable talking on the phone, or suspect the call to be a scam, you can ask for an email or a text that will invite you to use the Test and Trace web site instead.
From this email, you should only ever be directed to this web address: contact-tracing.phe.gov.uk
Lootman wrote:redsturgeon wrote:Lootman wrote:A thought experiment for you. Suppose you have to be locked up in a cell with a stranger for the next 24 hours. However you are given a choice:
1) Someone who has been pinged but is getting tested and monitored daily.
2) A stranger about whom you know nothing.
Which would you choose, and why?
I think you are confused as to my views on this matter. I'd much rather everyone that was pinged by test and trace just tested daily. Mrs RS is dealing with covid positive patients most days and she takes a daily test. I think it is ridiculous that Boris and Rishi are now isolating.
Then I apologise, I thought you were suggesting that the "NHS trial" was bogus.
Lootman wrote:redsturgeon wrote:Don't worry if you get pinged, just do as the PM and chancellor are doing and start an NHS trial where you just test yourself each morning instead...who knew it could be so simple.
A thought experiment for you. Suppose you have to be locked up in a cell with a stranger for the next 24 hours. However you are given a choice:
1) Someone who has been pinged but is getting tested and monitored daily.
2) A stranger about whom you know nothing.
Which would you choose, and why?
“The fact that around one-third of people who are asked to self-isolate as contacts go on to become ill themselves shows the importance of this system. "
zico wrote:It's a complete no-brainer if you base your decision on data. ONS data shows 34% of "pingees" develop Covid.“The fact that around one-third of people who are asked to self-isolate as contacts go on to become ill themselves shows the importance of this system. "
zico wrote:The obvious conclusion (to me at least) is that if you want to reduce the so-called "pingdemic" while controlling the spread of the virus, people should be asked to self-isolate for 4 days after being pinged.
13% of infections will be missed, but people will be able to get out of self-isolation sooner.
Mike4 wrote:zico wrote:The obvious conclusion (to me at least) is that if you want to reduce the so-called "pingdemic" while controlling the spread of the virus, people should be asked to self-isolate for 4 days after being pinged.
13% of infections will be missed, but people will be able to get out of self-isolation sooner.
Not only will a four day self-isolation mean 60% fewer working days lost (?), but I'd suggest it might result in a far higher compliance in the first place. 10 days is a big sacrifice and many people simply cannot or will not fully comply. Change it to four days and I bet nearly everyone pinged would accept 4 days of isolation more willingly.
Mike4 wrote:zico wrote:The obvious conclusion (to me at least) is that if you want to reduce the so-called "pingdemic" while controlling the spread of the virus, people should be asked to self-isolate for 4 days after being pinged.
13% of infections will be missed, but people will be able to get out of self-isolation sooner.
Not only will a four day self-isolation mean 60% fewer working days lost (?), but I'd suggest it might result in a far higher compliance in the first place. 10 days is a big sacrifice and many people simply cannot or will not fully comply. Change it to four days and I bet nearly everyone pinged would accept 4 days of isolation more willingly.
pje16 wrote:Mike4 wrote:zico wrote:The obvious conclusion (to me at least) is that if you want to reduce the so-called "pingdemic" while controlling the spread of the virus, people should be asked to self-isolate for 4 days after being pinged.
13% of infections will be missed, but people will be able to get out of self-isolation sooner.
Not only will a four day self-isolation mean 60% fewer working days lost (?), but I'd suggest it might result in a far higher compliance in the first place. 10 days is a big sacrifice and many people simply cannot or will not fully comply. Change it to four days and I bet nearly everyone pinged would accept 4 days of isolation more willingly.
It took 5 days from being at the venue for me to get pinged !
pje16 wrote:another record number of pings
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-58008618
hopefully will all end on 16 August
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