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Women Drivers
This morning I was driving through a nearby village which has no parking facilities but plenty of cars parked on one side of a fairly narrow road. I stopped several times and nipped into gaps to let cars through and I couldn't help but notice that all male drives acknowledged this but not a single female driver. I use this route several times a week and have noticed that it is invariably women who fail to raise their hand to signal thankyou. Is this the norm in other parts of the UK or just in Wales.
R6
nb. I'm female and my father, when teaching me to drive, always impressed on me the need to say thanks for small courtesies
R6
nb. I'm female and my father, when teaching me to drive, always impressed on me the need to say thanks for small courtesies
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Re: Women Drivers
Rhyd6 wrote:This morning I was driving through a nearby village which has no parking facilities but plenty of cars parked on one side of a fairly narrow road. I stopped several times and nipped into gaps to let cars through and I couldn't help but notice that all male drives acknowledged this but not a single female driver. I use this route several times a week and have noticed that it is invariably women who fail to raise their hand to signal thankyou. Is this the norm in other parts of the UK or just in Wales.
R6
nb. I'm female and my father, when teaching me to drive, always impressed on me the need to say thanks for small courtesies
I've not noticed it being the norm round here (edge of London) and most people seem fairly polite in that respect. I shall start doing a gender count from now on
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Re: Women Drivers
Generally I don't find any difference in the attitude of male and female drivers unless it is around school run time. At that time females would happily kill you if you don't give way. There's no chance of being thanked, you are expected to be grateful you are still alive.
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Re: Women Drivers
We get a lot of that around these parts during the local school run. We're a small rural community with narrow roads, and many of the drivers have come out from the nearby town in their all-weather 4x4s, or more likely their posey two wheel drive soft-roaders.
They rarely wave to acknowledge a favour from other users, for pretty much the same reason that they don't like using reverse gear. They're terrified of the enormous chariots that they've been told to drive, and they don't dare take a hand off the wheel.
Not that I really mind, of course. It's better than the alternative.....
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They rarely wave to acknowledge a favour from other users, for pretty much the same reason that they don't like using reverse gear. They're terrified of the enormous chariots that they've been told to drive, and they don't dare take a hand off the wheel.
Not that I really mind, of course. It's better than the alternative.....
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Re: Women Drivers
A few years ago now when two of my grand daughters were under five I regularly took them with me when I walked their dog a beautiful black Lab.
On the route a busy road narrowed and there was a raised section. Whilst not a Zebra crossing it was used as one at your peril.
Over a two year period there were two extremes of behaviour being those that rarely stopped and those that almost always stopped.
The two categories involved were mothers with children in the car and boy racers.
Yes your ahead of me.it was the boy racers who stopped.
On the route a busy road narrowed and there was a raised section. Whilst not a Zebra crossing it was used as one at your peril.
Over a two year period there were two extremes of behaviour being those that rarely stopped and those that almost always stopped.
The two categories involved were mothers with children in the car and boy racers.
Yes your ahead of me.it was the boy racers who stopped.
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Re: Women Drivers
I should have added, in fairness, that I have a fair amount of sympathy for the school runners. If you've got four kids fighting in the back seat, and one of them's just been sick on the carpet, and another one's left his bag at home, and then you've got to drive to another school in another town before your 10 am brunch appointment with the tennis coach, then it's probably getting a teensy bit fraught in the cabin.
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Re: Women Drivers
My years as a bloke on a motorcycle have taught me that women drivers are less dangerous to be around and they are more polite.
Except when it's school run time, when motorbikes become almost invisible to them. Though occasionally we become targets instead.
Mum plus 2.4 kids with assorted equipment and an overexcited Labrador in an estate car is something to avoid. If I ever spot one of those I automatically take evasive action.
That said nothing beats men wearing tweed hats driving Mercedes. They're in a class of their own when it comes to owning the road and ignoring everyone else.
I second all of bungeejumper's comments about city folk driving 4x4s out in the sticks. They're easy to spot as their vehicles are much cleaner than rural 4x4s (off road for them is the supermarket car park). They can be quite entertaining to watch (from a distance) when maneuvering out of a country pub car park (reverse gear is definitely optional).
Except when it's school run time, when motorbikes become almost invisible to them. Though occasionally we become targets instead.
Mum plus 2.4 kids with assorted equipment and an overexcited Labrador in an estate car is something to avoid. If I ever spot one of those I automatically take evasive action.
That said nothing beats men wearing tweed hats driving Mercedes. They're in a class of their own when it comes to owning the road and ignoring everyone else.
I second all of bungeejumper's comments about city folk driving 4x4s out in the sticks. They're easy to spot as their vehicles are much cleaner than rural 4x4s (off road for them is the supermarket car park). They can be quite entertaining to watch (from a distance) when maneuvering out of a country pub car park (reverse gear is definitely optional).
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Re: Women Drivers
I've got to agree with the comments about the school run. If you think motorbikes become invisible, you want to try going out running. Hi-viz counts for nothing. It has got the the point in my village that I am not brave enough to go out running at school run time. I value my life more than that.
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Re: Women Drivers
A lovely lady yesterday waved and mouthed "sorry" to me while she drove across a pedestrian crossing I had started upon; rolling her eyes and shrugging in a "look at what I've done, silly me" kind of way.
I gave her a smiley thumbs up.
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I gave her a smiley thumbs up.
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Re: Women Drivers
bungeejumper wrote:I should have added, in fairness, that I have a fair amount of sympathy for the school runners. If you've got four kids fighting in the back seat, and one of them's just been sick on the carpet, and another one's left his bag at home, and then you've got to drive to another school in another town before your 10 am brunch appointment with the tennis coach, then it's probably getting a teensy bit fraught in the cabin.
BJ
You started off so well, but will spoil it with the wise-crack about tennis coaches? Your prejudice is showing and it was for no good reason.
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Arborbridge wrote:You started off so well, but will spoil it with the wise-crack about tennis coaches? Your prejudice is showing and it was for no good reason.
Sigh, there's no cure for a SOH failure.
But, since you've raised the subject, if we'd been talking about men needing to sneak off for an illicit tryst with Tracey from accounts, you wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. Unfortunately, in this case, the prejudice that's showing is all yours. What a shame.
BJ
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Re: Women Drivers
bungeejumper wrote:Arborbridge wrote:You started off so well, but will spoil it with the wise-crack about tennis coaches? Your prejudice is showing and it was for no good reason.
Sigh, there's no cure for a SOH failure.
But, since you've raised the subject, if we'd been talking about men needing to sneak off for an illicit meeting with Tracey from accounts
To say nothing about Tracey the tennis coach...
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Re: Women Drivers
swill453 wrote:To say nothing about Tracey the tennis coach...
Keeps her balls in a tube.
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Re: Women Drivers
Bminusrob wrote:If you think motorbikes become invisible, you want to try going out running. Hi-viz counts for nothing.
several studies regarding the use of hi-viz for cyclists (including stats for motorcylists too) has come to the same conclusion generally - Hi-Viz "does nothing" to improve safety ..
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/late ... nds-374898
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... vis-840505
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... luorescent
other google hits are available etc.
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Re: Women Drivers
Late and rather obvious news: it's not just women who get themselves into difficulty..
This very morning, by pure coincidence, a brand new (well, 19 reg) all-electric e-golf pulled up outside our house and promptly tried to climb straight up our front lawn. Having discovered, to his annoyance, the reason why we keep a few concrete pots along the garden path (strike one ), the driver got out and inspected his shiny but now noticeably scratched wheel, and turned his attention to Oliver and Tandy, who were clearly giving their dad a bit of a run-around this morning. It didn't look as though any of them was used to this poor sap doing the school run. What fun it was, though.
It must have taken the clueless pillock three minutes at least to get the two kids out of the car - he kept on telling them to pleeease turn off their ipads, and repeatedly calling them "daahling" in that quietly tense and despairing voice that clearly meant "you little bastards, just wait till your mother gets home" as they took it in turns to push all his trouble buttons at once . Much merriment, not least from me.
Having finally discharged his payload, Mr Millennial got back into his car, by now quite visibly angry, and reversed at full tilt down the track to the turning. (Oh yeah, furious reverse is another thing that Mr surplus-testosterone seems obliged to do from time to time. Don't ask me why.) This being an electric car, of course, it hardly made any sound at all, but it had a surprising turn of speed, which certainly surprised the school run mum who was taking the same corner in the opposite direction.
Screech, crunch, everybody turned to watch them get out and start shouting about whose fault it was. And why you shouldn't be attempting a J-turn in the first place when there are schoolkids around. And so on. Me, I just ducked back behind the curtain and let them to get on with it.
Just another everyday story of country folk. It passes the time.
BJ
This very morning, by pure coincidence, a brand new (well, 19 reg) all-electric e-golf pulled up outside our house and promptly tried to climb straight up our front lawn. Having discovered, to his annoyance, the reason why we keep a few concrete pots along the garden path (strike one ), the driver got out and inspected his shiny but now noticeably scratched wheel, and turned his attention to Oliver and Tandy, who were clearly giving their dad a bit of a run-around this morning. It didn't look as though any of them was used to this poor sap doing the school run. What fun it was, though.
It must have taken the clueless pillock three minutes at least to get the two kids out of the car - he kept on telling them to pleeease turn off their ipads, and repeatedly calling them "daahling" in that quietly tense and despairing voice that clearly meant "you little bastards, just wait till your mother gets home" as they took it in turns to push all his trouble buttons at once . Much merriment, not least from me.
Having finally discharged his payload, Mr Millennial got back into his car, by now quite visibly angry, and reversed at full tilt down the track to the turning. (Oh yeah, furious reverse is another thing that Mr surplus-testosterone seems obliged to do from time to time. Don't ask me why.) This being an electric car, of course, it hardly made any sound at all, but it had a surprising turn of speed, which certainly surprised the school run mum who was taking the same corner in the opposite direction.
Screech, crunch, everybody turned to watch them get out and start shouting about whose fault it was. And why you shouldn't be attempting a J-turn in the first place when there are schoolkids around. And so on. Me, I just ducked back behind the curtain and let them to get on with it.
Just another everyday story of country folk. It passes the time.
BJ
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Re: Women Drivers
bungeejumper wrote:Arborbridge wrote:You started off so well, but will spoil it with the wise-crack about tennis coaches? Your prejudice is showing and it was for no good reason.
Sigh, there's no cure for a SOH failure.
But, since you've raised the subject, if we'd been talking about men needing to sneak off for an illicit tryst with Tracey from accounts, you wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. Unfortunately, in this case, the prejudice that's showing is all yours. What a shame.
BJ
Nice try, but you've included an unjustifiable and large IF there. You've also compounded the problem by not recognising your own quite obvious black mark. Whether you imagine some prejudice on my part, it certainly isn't all mine - as John Cleese might say "you started it!".
When one has been caught out, as you were, it's better to ackowledge and move on.
The refuge of people making prejudiced remarks down the ages has been to accuse the people who point it out of a SOH failure. It's a rickety refuge since there is nothing funny about prejudice, and only the prejudiced do not seem to realise that the way we use language is influential in proliferating such attitudes. It just doesn't cut it to say "I was joking" - that well worn excuse expired around 1980.
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Arb, you are one of my all-time favourite posters, but you're well wide with this one. And on the wrong board, too. This one is for grumpy old gits, but grumpy old gits who retain a sense of humour and (most importantly) self-irony. Where's yours gone this morning?
And as most other people would say, when you're in a hole, stop digging. If you think there's blame on both sides (or, as you would call it "prejudice"), why not just accept it and (to quote your good self again) "move on"?
BJ
Arborbridge wrote:Nice try, but you've included an unjustifiable and large IF there. You've also compounded the problem by not recognising your own quite obvious black mark. Whether you imagine some prejudice on my part, it certainly isn't all mine - as John Cleese might say "you started it!".
When one has been caught out, as you were, it's better to ackowledge and move on.
And as most other people would say, when you're in a hole, stop digging. If you think there's blame on both sides (or, as you would call it "prejudice"), why not just accept it and (to quote your good self again) "move on"?
BJ
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Re: Women Drivers
maximan wrote:A few years ago now when two of my grand daughters were under five I regularly took them with me when I walked their dog a beautiful black Lab.
On the route a busy road narrowed and there was a raised section. Whilst not a Zebra crossing it was used as one at your peril.
Over a two year period there were two extremes of behaviour being those that rarely stopped and those that almost always stopped.
The two categories involved were mothers with children in the car and boy racers.
Yes your ahead of me.it was the boy racers who stopped.
I'm currently in Coventry visiting my 95 year old mum. She's not so mobile these days, and uses one of those wheeled shopping trolley thingies to help her get about. When we are standing at the side of a road waiting to cross (not on a crossing), it's amazing how many drivers stop and wave her across. And they are nearly all boy racers! (haven't noticed any girl racers)
--kiloran
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kiloran wrote:I'm currently in Coventry visiting my 95 year old mum. She's not so mobile these days, and uses one of those wheeled shopping trolley thingies to help her get about. When we are standing at the side of a road waiting to cross (not on a crossing), it's amazing how many drivers stop and wave her across. And they are nearly all boy racers! (haven't noticed any girl racers)
--kiloran
Interesting - I used to help with a visually disabled group (now disbanded), and one of our members commented on the use of a white cane (they are now actually tubular metal folding sticks). When wishing to cross a road, he would display the cane, and any car that had the temerity to whizz past was thrashed with the cane.
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