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UncleEbenezer wrote:So our covid incidence has approximately doubled since mid-April, with every individual area of Devon except Torbay out of the healthy lemon-yellow. Other English counties that had joined us at low levels are also up: our neighbours Cornwall and Dorset, west-of-England Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire, and outlier East Sussex, all lost our yellow status on the map. Newcomer Cumbria is today the most significant English population in yellow ahead of fellow-newcomer West Cheshire (I'm reluctant to count part-counties here, but it appears to be a significant area).
Meanwhile most of Wales, including now some of their significant population centres and poorer regions in the Valleys, is knocking the spots off us. What are they doing right?
Nimrod103 wrote:The UK has now exited the pandemic,
UncleEbenezer wrote:Nimrod103 wrote:The UK has now exited the pandemic,
Declare Victory and Move On?
Like Dubya in 2003 standing in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner on his aircraft carrier and declaring victory in Iraq!
UncleEbenezer wrote:So our covid incidence has approximately doubled since mid-April, with every individual area of Devon except Torbay out of the healthy lemon-yellow. Other English counties that had joined us at low levels are also up: our neighbours Cornwall and Dorset, west-of-England Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire, and outlier East Sussex, all lost our yellow status on the map. Newcomer Cumbria is today the most significant English population in yellow ahead of fellow-newcomer West Cheshire (I'm reluctant to count part-counties here, but it appears to be a significant area).
Meanwhile most of Wales, including now some of their significant population centres and poorer regions in the Valleys, is knocking the spots off us. What are they doing right?
Nimrod103 wrote:The UK has now exited the pandemic, and has entered the endemic stage of infection. Cases will fluctuate in different parts of the country, but are now at very low levels everywhere.
The only way out of this epidemic for Western society was mass vaccination, and the programme is moving ahead rapidly.
9873210 wrote:Nimrod103 wrote:The UK has now exited the pandemic, and has entered the endemic stage of infection. Cases will fluctuate in different parts of the country, but are now at very low levels everywhere.
The only way out of this epidemic for Western society was mass vaccination, and the programme is moving ahead rapidly.
The pandemic is on going. You cannot exit a pandemic in one country.
UK deaths and cases are currently higher than August 2020. Vaccination rates are higher, which is a cause for hope, but optimism is too high, which is a cause for despair. Hopefully the next wave will be less lethal and more instructive than the first two.
9873210 wrote:Nimrod103 wrote:The UK has now exited the pandemic, and has entered the endemic stage of infection. Cases will fluctuate in different parts of the country, but are now at very low levels everywhere.
The only way out of this epidemic for Western society was mass vaccination, and the programme is moving ahead rapidly.
The pandemic is on going. You cannot exit a pandemic in one country.
UK deaths and cases are currently higher than August 2020.
Lootman wrote:9873210 wrote:Nimrod103 wrote:The UK has now exited the pandemic, and has entered the endemic stage of infection. Cases will fluctuate in different parts of the country, but are now at very low levels everywhere.
The only way out of this epidemic for Western society was mass vaccination, and the programme is moving ahead rapidly.
The pandemic is on going. You cannot exit a pandemic in one country.
UK deaths and cases are currently higher than August 2020.
Well, the official Covid death count yesterday was 1 (one)!
Probably about the same as the number who died from being gored by a wild animal.
9873210 wrote:Lootman wrote:9873210 wrote:The pandemic is on going. You cannot exit a pandemic in one country.
UK deaths and cases are currently higher than August 2020.
Well, the official Covid death count yesterday was 1 (one)!
Probably about the same as the number who died from being gored by a wild animal.
I don't know where you are getting your data from but https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths does not support your statement. You'd have to wait another four days before yesterday's death become available.
Lootman wrote:9873210 wrote:Nimrod103 wrote:The UK has now exited the pandemic, and has entered the endemic stage of infection. Cases will fluctuate in different parts of the country, but are now at very low levels everywhere.
The only way out of this epidemic for Western society was mass vaccination, and the programme is moving ahead rapidly.
The pandemic is on going. You cannot exit a pandemic in one country.
UK deaths and cases are currently higher than August 2020.
Well, the official Covid death count yesterday was 1 (one)!
Probably about the same as the number who died from being gored by a wild animal.
XFool wrote:Lootman wrote:9873210 wrote:The pandemic is on going. You cannot exit a pandemic in one country.
UK deaths and cases are currently higher than August 2020.
Well, the official Covid death count yesterday was 1 (one)!
Probably about the same as the number who died from being gored by a wild animal.
Yeah. And, as we all know by now, "being gored by a wild animal" is a highly infectious condition. Especially when you take into account all the various possible mutations of "being gored by a wild animal".![]()
"How long, Oh Lord? How long?"
dealtn wrote:XFool wrote:Lootman wrote:Well, the official Covid death count yesterday was 1 (one)!
Probably about the same as the number who died from being gored by a wild animal.
Yeah. And, as we all know by now, "being gored by a wild animal" is a highly infectious condition. Especially when you take into account all the various possible mutations of "being gored by a wild animal".![]()
"How long, Oh Lord? How long?"
So the fact an infectious disease with the potential for exponential growth only resulted in a single death doesn't register as being newsworthy to you?
dealtn wrote:I must have missed it, but a "goring by wild animal death" would rank higher as a newsworthy event I admit.
XFool wrote:dealtn wrote:XFool wrote:Yeah. And, as we all know by now, "being gored by a wild animal" is a highly infectious condition. Especially when you take into account all the various possible mutations of "being gored by a wild animal".![]()
"How long, Oh Lord? How long?"
So the fact an infectious disease with the potential for exponential growth only resulted in a single death doesn't register as being newsworthy to you?
Who said it wasn't "newsworthy"? (That's not though, the point.)dealtn wrote:I must have missed it, but a "goring by wild animal death" would rank higher as a newsworthy event I admit.
Probably! Especially so if we had a global epidemic of people being gored to death by wild animals on our hands. Have we?
dealtn wrote:XFool wrote:dealtn wrote:So the fact an infectious disease with the potential for exponential growth only resulted in a single death doesn't register as being newsworthy to you?
Who said it wasn't "newsworthy"? (That's not though, the point.)dealtn wrote:I must have missed it, but a "goring by wild animal death" would rank higher as a newsworthy event I admit.
Probably! Especially so if we had a global epidemic of people being gored to death by wild animals on our hands. Have we?
No.
I don't understand your continuing reference to "global epidemic". Do you think there are really many people that are unaware of it with respect to Covid?
XFool wrote:dealtn wrote:XFool wrote:Who said it wasn't "newsworthy"? (That's not though, the point.)
Probably! Especially so if we had a global epidemic of people being gored to death by wild animals on our hands. Have we?
No.
I don't understand your continuing reference to "global epidemic". Do you think there are really many people that are unaware of it with respect to Covid?
I'm not sure.![]()
I'm pretty sure most people are familiar with the terminology - the words. But, from reading many comments about the "pandemic", I continue to be considerably less sure about the proportion of people who fully comprehend the meaning and implications of the fact of the "pandemic".
Am I wrong? I'm not sure...
dealtn wrote:XFool wrote:dealtn wrote:No. I don't understand your continuing reference to "global epidemic". Do you think there are really many people that are unaware of it with respect to Covid?
I'm not sure.![]()
I'm pretty sure most people are familiar with the terminology - the words. But, from reading many comments about the "pandemic", I continue to be considerably less sure about the proportion of people who fully comprehend the meaning and implications of the fact of the "pandemic".
Am I wrong? I'm not sure...
Well "fully" is a pretty high hurdle! I am sure most understand both the meaning and implications to a large degree though.
dealtn wrote:XFool wrote:dealtn wrote:No.
I don't understand your continuing reference to "global epidemic". Do you think there are really many people that are unaware of it with respect to Covid?
I'm not sure.![]()
I'm pretty sure most people are familiar with the terminology - the words. But, from reading many comments about the "pandemic", I continue to be considerably less sure about the proportion of people who fully comprehend the meaning and implications of the fact of the "pandemic".
Am I wrong? I'm not sure...
Well "fully" is a pretty high hurdle! I am sure most understand both the meaning and implications to a large degree though.
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