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Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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AsleepInYorkshire
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Issues loading Lemon Fool website

#552350

Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 5th, 2022, 11:51 am

Just a heads up

I've had intermittent issues connecting with the site over the last week, possibly ten days. No reason given for not being able to load the website, but all other websites fine at time of issue with LF.

Thank you

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby 88V8 » December 5th, 2022, 11:55 am

I had a problem with a couple of sites, not this one, well maybe briefly once..
One of those sites has today added a header saying that members using Firefox seem to have had a problem.... and to 'load the latest code' they should press Ctrl+Enter which I did and the problem has vanished.

V8

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 5th, 2022, 11:58 am

88V8 wrote:I had a problem with a couple of sites, not this one, well maybe briefly once..
One of those sites has today added a header saying that members using Firefox seem to have had a problem.... and to 'load the latest code' they should press Ctrl+Enter which I did and the problem has vanished.

V8

Hi V8,

Thank you for the reply. I should have said in my opening post I use Microsoft Edge for browsing. I'll check I've got all the updates loaded though, as it could be as simple as that.

Cheers,

AiY(D)
Seasonal greetings :)

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby pje16 » December 5th, 2022, 12:04 pm

I just don't get why browsers are blamed for a problem
decent coders (not a dig at TLF) should know how to code properly
I was down for 10 mins or so one day last week (not an issue these things happen)
Firefox for me

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby servodude » December 5th, 2022, 12:23 pm

pje16 wrote:I just don't get why browsers are blamed for a problem
decent coders (not a dig at TLF) should know how to code properly
I was down for 10 mins or so one day last week (not an issue these things happen)


10 mins - I've been down since I realised StMirren will probably be losing Keanu Baccus in the January window (that hit me like he hit Messi :) )
we all get off moments and it's great to see you take it so well ;)

Anyways browsers get blamed because they're the bit you see - and they've got a bad habit of not being compliant with stuff they say they should be (I've got a good mate who worked on Netscape and I still like to rib him about it!!)

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby swill453 » December 5th, 2022, 12:26 pm

Yes I've had issues connecting to the site recently, seems to go offline for a few seconds at a time then comes back. No problem with any other sites, and I don't believe my browser is the problem (Chrome FWIW).

Scott.

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby swill453 » December 5th, 2022, 12:32 pm

Just had it just now:

This site can’t be reached
Check if there is a typo in http://www.lemonfool.co.uk.

Then a reload a few seconds later works fine.

Scott.

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby chas49 » December 5th, 2022, 1:18 pm

88V8 wrote:I had a problem with a couple of sites, not this one, well maybe briefly once..
One of those sites has today added a header saying that members using Firefox seem to have had a problem.... and to 'load the latest code' they should press Ctrl+Enter which I did and the problem has vanished.

V8


AIUI the Ctrl+Enter shortcut is "quickly complete an address" so it's not that clear how this could help...

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby mc2fool » December 5th, 2022, 1:24 pm

swill453 wrote:Yes I've had issues connecting to the site recently, seems to go offline for a few seconds at a time then comes back. No problem with any other sites, and I don't believe my browser is the problem (Chrome FWIW).

Scott.

Ditto for me, using Firefox.

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby staffordian » December 5th, 2022, 5:55 pm

swill453 wrote:Yes I've had issues connecting to the site recently, seems to go offline for a few seconds at a time then comes back. No problem with any other sites, and I don't believe my browser is the problem (Chrome FWIW).

Scott.

And here, intermittently for a couple of weeks or so. Chrome on an Android tablet.

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby Itsallaguess » December 5th, 2022, 6:00 pm

I've been seeing similar issues over the past two or three weeks, and it felt like a rogue DNS issue when it was sporadically happening.

I'm with Plusnet for my broadband, and I've now manually changed my main Windows 10 PC network configuration to use the free Google DNS servers, and since doing so the issue has gone away on that machine, so it feels relevant that it's not occurred since changing that particular DNS configuration...

Are those others on this thread that have seen similar issues also with Plusnet by any chance?

Cheers,

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby NearlyThere » December 5th, 2022, 6:19 pm

I'm seeing same issue intermittently. Browser is Chrome, Virgin Media ISP.

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby Itsallaguess » December 5th, 2022, 6:24 pm

Itsallaguess wrote:
I'm with Plusnet for my broadband, and I've now manually changed my main Windows 10 PC network configuration to use the free Google DNS servers, and since doing so the issue has gone away on that machine, so it feels relevant that it's not occurred since changing that particular DNS configuration...


Actually, having just checked, I also manually added the IP address for the Lemon Fool site into my Windows 'Hosts' file -

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Source - My own PC

I suspect that's actually the fix that's made the difference for me in recent weeks.

I'm hoping it'll eventually sort itself out, as I'd prefer not to have the above manual setting in my hosts file, but for a medium-term fix it seems to have done the job...

Cheers,

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby staffordian » December 5th, 2022, 6:57 pm

Itsallaguess wrote:Are those others on this thread that have seen similar issues also with Plusnet by any chance?

No, Sky. (FTTC if relevent)

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby Itsallaguess » December 5th, 2022, 7:00 pm

staffordian wrote:
Itsallaguess wrote:
Are those others on this thread that have seen similar issues also with Plusnet by any chance?


No, Sky. (FTTC if relevent)


I'm not sure it's all that relevant - as I said earlier, I also manually set my Windows hosts file to look directly at the IP address for this site, instead of going through the DNS process, and it's been fine ever since, so I assume there's something sporadically dodgy going on in the wider DNS world somewhere, rather than it being provider-specific.

Cheers,

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby gryffron » December 6th, 2022, 10:09 am

I have seen this fairly regularly. VirginMedia. Chrome gives the slightly more useful error message
This site can’t be reached
Check if there is a typo in http://www.lemonfool.co.uk.
If spelling is correct, try running windows network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

Also fails without a useful error message on iPad/Safari.

Clears after a minute or two. No problems with any other site.

Gryff

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby swill453 » December 8th, 2022, 9:49 am

I have to say that in the last couple of days I haven't had a recurrence of the problem.

Scott.

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby Itsallaguess » December 10th, 2022, 7:04 am

swill453 wrote:
I have to say that in the last couple of days I haven't had a recurrence of the problem.


I removed the Lemon Fool IP address from my Windows Hosts file to check, and I've unfortunately seen the same issue a few times this morning already.

Refreshing the page a few times seems to gain browser access again, but it's still an annoying issue here.

I've just done a couple of DNS look-up tests using a good online tool, and that also looks to be showing the issue when setting the site below for a Lemon Fool DNS look-up from London -

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Source - https://www.dotcom-tools.com/dns-trace-test

This still looks to be a sporadic DNS issue affecting the sites IP address...

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby mc2fool » December 10th, 2022, 10:36 am

Itsallaguess wrote:I've just done a couple of DNS look-up tests using a good online tool, and that also looks to be showing the issue when setting the site below for a Lemon Fool DNS look-up from London -
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Source - https://www.dotcom-tools.com/dns-trace-test

This still looks to be a sporadic DNS issue affecting the sites IP address...

Hmmmm, interesting. That's something mxtoolbox doesn't do! 8-) :geek:

Yes, I also continue to have the problem sporadically. From my experience with TSOHOST support I expect the issues will continue for a while. :( However, I notice that TLF's DNS entries have a TTL of just 10 minutes. I wonder if it'd help if stooz raised that to say 60 minutes, as there's no need to go to the flaky source DNS servers on every lookup.

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Re: Issues loading Lemon Fool website

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Postby Itsallaguess » December 10th, 2022, 10:47 am

mc2fool wrote:
Yes, I also continue to have the problem sporadically.


If it's fairly regular for you, would you have an opportunity to change a Windows Hosts file entry to see if the issue goes away whilst that's in place?

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That certainly fixed it for me whilst I used it for a bit, and it feels too coincidental for the issues to have now returned when I removed the Hosts file entry yesterday...

Cheers,

Itsallaguess


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