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Jet powered biplane

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Jet powered biplane

#573855

Postby bungeejumper » March 8th, 2023, 9:58 am

Another Gloucestershire loony. "Basically a poor man's Harrier"

And he did the conversion in his shed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-englan ... r-64788578 . Guy Martin, it's time to raise your game. ;)

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » March 8th, 2023, 10:21 am

bungeejumper wrote:Another Gloucestershire loony. "Basically a poor man's Harrier"

And he did the conversion in his shed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-englan ... r-64788578 . Guy Martin, it's time to raise your game. ;)

BJ

I'm surpised the airframe can cope with this addition. They must put some great stresses and strains on it.

AiY(D)

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby pje16 » March 8th, 2023, 10:21 am

I want one :D

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby Mike4 » March 8th, 2023, 10:39 am

pje16 wrote:I want one :D


Bet you'd crash it!


(I want one too.)

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby pje16 » March 8th, 2023, 10:44 am

Mike4 wrote:
pje16 wrote:I want one :D


Bet you'd crash it!


(I want one too.)

See you in hospital then :lol:

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby 88V8 » March 8th, 2023, 11:16 am

bungeejumper wrote:Another Gloucestershire loony. "Basically a poor man's Harrier"

I'm amazed he's allowed to fly it, but hooray if it's not strangled in red tape.

Not for me, I have to say, just watching the video made me feel airsick... :?

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby Mike4 » March 8th, 2023, 11:43 am

88V8 wrote:
bungeejumper wrote:Another Gloucestershire loony. "Basically a poor man's Harrier"

I'm amazed he's allowed to fly it, but hooray if it's not strangled in red tape.

Not for me, I have to say, just watching the video made me feel airsick... :?

V8


If that troubles you, DON'T watch this 9-year-old old video by a chap of himself free-climbing a radio tower!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INbKYq0 ... ictionPark

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby bungeejumper » March 8th, 2023, 12:36 pm

88V8 wrote:I'm amazed he's allowed to fly it, but hooray if it's not strangled in red tape.

Not for me, I have to say, just watching the video made me feel airsick... :?

Me too. On a half-related point, we were out in our garden nearly 30 years ago when a modern replica of the Red Baron's Fokker triplane came flying over, quite low. Rather exciting.

Not so exciting was that, just twenty minutes later, it clipped a tree during a mock dogfight at Stourhead and caught fire, and that was the end of the pilot. Loads of schoolchildren watching the display, worse luck. :( https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/18805. You can overstate the manoeuvrability of a slow-moving biplane, especially when the wind changes. But then, I imagine that 100 years of product design must have improved the survival odds?

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby ReformedCharacter » March 8th, 2023, 1:12 pm

bungeejumper wrote:Another Gloucestershire loony. "Basically a poor man's Harrier"

BJ

Yes, but not as loony as Maurice 'Captain' Kirk, whose headlines I've enjoyed reading for decades after he got into trouble for brandishing a shotgun whilst flying into an airport in Bristol, apparently attempting to shoot rabbits.

A former vet stalked a Conservative MP for more than a year and sent a letter containing white powder to her home, a jury has heard...Kirk contacted Pow to enlist her help over another case in which he was suing the police after being cleared of fixing a machine gun to a vintage plane.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/10/former-vet-stalked-somerset-mp-for-more-than-a-year-court-hears

An elderly British pilot disappeared while attempting to fly his 1940s light airplane the length of Africa without either radio or satellite navigation equipment, prompting a search and rescue operation...Organisers of the Vintage Air Rally said he had been asked to withdraw because of a lack of satellite tracking or a working compass on his 1943 Piper Cub plane...The self-styled "Flying Vet" was kicked out of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons for "disgraceful conduct" in 2002, following his court cases.

In 2008 he was arrested and briefly detained at a psychiatric unit after landing a replica First World War biplane close to US president George W Bush's Texan Ranch.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/23/maverick-pilot-72-goes-missing-flying-across-africa-1940s-plane/

'Flying Vet' Maurice Kirk needed hospital treatment following the crash in Lower Durston. The Air Accidents Investigation Branch has released a report into the incident in the early evening of May 26 this year. Experienced pilot Mr Kirk, 76, had only recently acquired the 14-year-old GY201 Amateur Built, G-BEBR light aircraft. The plane came down after it misfired at about 400 feet and did not produce sufficient power to enable him to land back on the strip. The AAIB report added: "He therefore initiated a field landing and as he approached the field from the east his vision was impaired by the setting sun. "He reported that he attempted to select full flap but found the flap handle jammed. "He then 'inadvertently' pulled back on the control column, which resulted in the aircraft stalling near to the ground and landing heavily."

https://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/19647238.flying-vet-maurice-kirk-survives-plane-crash-lower-durston/

And that's just some of it :)

RC

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby swill453 » March 8th, 2023, 1:21 pm

Mike4 wrote:
88V8 wrote:
bungeejumper wrote:Another Gloucestershire loony. "Basically a poor man's Harrier"

I'm amazed he's allowed to fly it, but hooray if it's not strangled in red tape.

Not for me, I have to say, just watching the video made me feel airsick... :?

If that troubles you, DON'T watch this 9-year-old old video by a chap of himself free-climbing a radio tower!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INbKYq0 ... ictionPark

There's a whole movie about two people stuck 2000 feet up a radio tower - Fall https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15325794/

Scott.

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby pje16 » March 8th, 2023, 2:03 pm

swill453 wrote:There's a whole movie about two people stuck 2000 feet up a radio tower - Fall https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15325794/

Scott.

Seems like it's on Netflix

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby Hallucigenia » March 8th, 2023, 2:26 pm

"In theory it should be able to hover like a Harrier"

...except to do so would involve rotating the jets through 90 degrees, cutting through the lower wing....

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby pje16 » March 8th, 2023, 6:50 pm

pje16 wrote:
swill453 wrote:There's a whole movie about two people stuck 2000 feet up a radio tower - Fall https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15325794/

Scott.

Seems like it's on Netflix

it's No.1 in Films today
certainly has a good opening
back to the sofa now :D

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby XFool » March 8th, 2023, 6:56 pm


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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby csearle » March 15th, 2023, 1:57 am

Hallucigenia wrote:"In theory it should be able to hover like a Harrier"

...except to do so would involve rotating the jets through 90 degrees, cutting through the lower wing....
I think what he meant was to point it up and be able, like Harrier, to stay still within the air around him. C.

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby staffordian » March 15th, 2023, 8:37 am

csearle wrote:
Hallucigenia wrote:"In theory it should be able to hover like a Harrier"

...except to do so would involve rotating the jets through 90 degrees, cutting through the lower wing....
I think what he meant was to point it up and be able, like Harrier, to stay still within the air around him. C.

That's the impression I got. Looked like it could do a vertical(ish) climb, then just remain stationary at the top of the climb, 'balancing' on the power of the jet engines instead of falling away in a stall.

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Re: Jet powered biplane

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Postby bungeejumper » March 15th, 2023, 9:45 am

staffordian wrote:
csearle wrote:I think what he meant was to point it up and be able, like Harrier, to stay still within the air around him. C.

That's the impression I got. Looked like it could do a vertical(ish) climb, then just remain stationary at the top of the climb, 'balancing' on the power of the jet engines instead of falling away in a stall.

A fat lot of good that would be at an air display. Not if it was kicking out that much smoke. Nobody could see a blooming thing. :lol:

BJ


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